2nd grow

[chinacat443]

Opster, I used 3:2 ratio for perlite, which is 33.333%, so i think im good.

As for nute burn, i dont think i haven any signs of that, if u saw some please point them out. But i didnt see any stressed leaves (except the "special" plant) or burning tips, is thhere any other sign???

Also back to the nutes, i havent even used my stuff at full strength yet, actuakky i havent used any of my nutes more than half strength yet, so I personally dont think i am burning anything here.

Watering: Usually once every 3 days, when I am confident that the pot is light enough...

And yea i cant buy a ppm pen or a moisture meter, because i only have 55$ to me name as of current.

thats 40% ............
3 parts dirt and 2 parts perlite.....

[cwesto]

Gotchya. well i guess im a lil off on the ratio. The last couple of days i think they have been doing better. I think im going to push back there next watering 1-2 days and see if that helps. I dont want to have to flush if i dont have too. If that doesnt help more i will probably flush

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

That's fine increaseing time between waterings. But I do highly recommend going to a watering routine similar to what I do. I was having similar issues as you were in your first grow and adopting this plan solved all my problems and am producing great quality buds. Check my results at 2nd grow from cloans and thcb seeds.

[chinacat443]

not for nothin, but i water my lil bitches EVERY day.
and i go back and forth with nutes one day and this soil ecolizer the next. the soil is dry when the lights go on and i water, then leave them till the next day when lights go on. sometimes if the soil in say one or 2 looks rather moist still, i let them go another day, but i always make sure i dont break the cycle of feed, and ecolize.

as per stress, ive had much success with FIM'ing, LST'ing, and repotting all in one day, and the plants never so much as skipped a beat. the only thing i noticed is that the side growth drastically improved, but i think thats becuase they not growing up from the FIM.

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[cwesto]

That's fine increaseing time between waterings. But I do highly recommend going to a watering routine similar to what I do. I was having similar issues as you were in your first grow and adopting this plan solved all my problems and am producing great quality buds. Check my results at 2nd grow from cloans and thcb seeds.

Jer,I looked through ur log, ur plants are tight:thumbsup: but I didnt see any watering routine, I may have missed it, but can u give me a quick breakdown of it??

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

Cwesto,

First off I follow the FF feeding chart to the Tee. Only alterations are 1 tsp. ph down per gallon due to my tap ph is 7 and after adding nutes it jumps to 7.5 to hot for MJ plants. The ph down brings it to a ph of 6.5 perfect for MJ plants. Then in flowering I add 1 Tbls. of mollasses and again adjust ph to 6.5 usually 1.5 tsp. of ph down. I also adjust my plane water to a ph of 6.5 for stability of the soil ph.

When I water I do it in the bathtub as you can see in my pics. The reason I do this is when I water I use an entire gallon of water or nute mix per plant and let any excess drain out the bottom. This ensures nutes are getting to the entire root system, then the plane water watering washes away any salts and excess nutes from the previous watering.

Time between waterings varies depending on pot size and plant size. I go by bucket weight in the earl stages of growth then in flowering I can tell by the fan leaves when watering is needed. I do this by looking at the fan leaves at the very top of the cola, when the plant is happy and well watered these leaves are at like a 75 deg angle from horizontal or appear like reaching for the light. When watering is needed these leaves will start to go to the horizontal position. I learned this from experience and using a moisture pen untill I put 2 and 2 together and no longer needed the pen. I recommend you do the same untill you get the feel of it.

You can use any alterations to the nutes you wish but the key points are maintain a constant watering ph of 6.5 and alternate between plane water and nute mix for watering.

[cwesto]

Jerry, I dont think the FF soil chart says to add nutes every other watering.... does it say this on the paper chart or the bottle??

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

Cwesto,

I looked at mine and it states in the lower left corner 2nd bullet point " For best results feed with every other watering" Also on the right is a big red bar that states the samething.
Here is a pic of my chart.

[Opie Yutts]

Notice in the upper right corner it says that these programs are starting points...

Some plants can't handle over 500 ppm, and others want 1500.

Oops, I see that I grabbed the wrong chart. The soil one is on my laptop I guess. Anyway, this is the chart I basically go by for my soil girls too.

[cwesto]

Cwesto,

I looked at mine and it states in the lower left corner 2nd bullet point " For best results feed with every other watering" Also on the right is a big red bar that states the samething.
Here is a pic of my chart.

Yea I am going to alternate now for sure, hopefully my predicament gets better. Jerry, do u see how it also says "feed with every other watering" above the granual parrt of the chart?? I thought that meant only w/ the granuals b/c it was right above them, but know i understand it means for all the nutes, liquid and granual. Ur a lifesaver dude. Also i should have some new pics either tomorow or the day after depepnding on which day i decide to water.

Notice in the upper right corner it says that these programs are starting points...

Some plants can't handle over 500 ppm, and others want 1500.

Oops, I see that I grabbed the wrong chart. The soil one is on my laptop I guess. Anyway, this is the chart I basically go by for my soil girls too.

Opie, do u have any good ideas on where i may look for a economy priced ppm meter??