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	10-21-2007, 04:19 PM #21 Senior Member Senior Member
 Dog starves to death in Costa Rican museum...alot of people probably never saw themselves as the murderers, until this was exposed, now they ALL feel responsible (hopefully) Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs
 
 I think this should be publicized as much as possible. I believe the more attn. and recognition, the more changes are made for the better.
 
 Lose lose lose, would be dog dies, guy gos free, nobody learns a THING.
 
 
 Dare I say the ends justify the means?....It is POSSIBLE.
 
 
 I want you all to keep in mind that I have "dog" tattood on my forearm in chinese, and that I'd have a much easier time takin' out a human, than an aminal  
 
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	10-21-2007, 04:19 PM #22 Senior Member Senior Member
 Dog starves to death in Costa Rican museumBeachguy...I agree with that....everyone who walked by and did nothing. But I have a feeling none of those people had a clue some FUCKHEAD for WHATEVER REASON decided to starve an animal to death in front of them and I seriously doubt the thought every occured to anyone......although it cetainly should have. 
 
 Chron....I see what you are saying. In some ways I am saying the same thing. THAT being said.....Kill the artist. Humanely....but do it. Anyone ....ANYONE....who commits a cruel act like that.....and I don't care what their reason is.....there simply isn't one imo...needs to be gone.
 
 The bottom line with that man's art is and what he is trying to say it......"He started it"
 But what's forgotten in my opinion is this......it's not about what you say.....it's about what you do. And what he did speaks for itself.
 
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	10-21-2007, 04:21 PM #23 Senior Member Senior Member
 Dog starves to death in Costa Rican museumChron....it never justifies.....never. The moment you stop believing that you become them. And that''s the worst you can possibly be. 
 
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	10-21-2007, 04:24 PM #24 Senior Member Senior Member
 Dog starves to death in Costa Rican museumI think it was Ghandi that said "you can tell how enlightened a society is by how they treat their animals". This guy just brought his society's image down a few points:wtf:. What a cruel asshole, I hope some bad karma goes his way. So enraveled in his artistic pretentiousness he can't see blatant cruelty past the "brilliance" percieved by his mental illness. 
 
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	10-21-2007, 04:26 PM #25 Senior Member Senior Member
 Dog starves to death in Costa Rican museumI know, I know Originally Posted by Weedhound Originally Posted by Weedhound 
 I'm just trying to present a side of this that could actually be 'good'. I think it's important, that people focus on the potential benefits of such questionable situations.
 
 Like I said; Honor the dog, and help one out the next oppurtunity you get, so this dog didnt die for NOTHIN"!
 
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	10-21-2007, 04:32 PM #26 Senior Member Senior Member
 Dog starves to death in Costa Rican museumWell I FIRMLY believe you will see a big wave from this. Gandalf has the right idea with the statement about Ghandi. Yes....it is OUR job to make things better for the animals. I heard one story.....can't remember it now....but I very clearly remember it being the start of huge changes. "People" like Mike Vick aside we've come forward a long way I think. And even with Vick I find victory in parts of of the story....which of course in NO way mitigates treating an animal badly....ever. 
 
 There will ALWAYS be cruelty around
 
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	10-21-2007, 05:24 PM #27 Senior Member Senior Member
 Dog starves to death in Costa Rican museumDogs are family. Every living thing is trying to survive and evolve, just as human beings were when we were "as stupid as dogs". We'll just have to evolve into a super-species, before this guy does, so we can chain him up. 
 
 We do all have to learn from our mistakes. Yes, Chron, for that reason, it should be made public. I just don't think that so many people have to learn from this guy's mistake.
 
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	10-21-2007, 08:28 PM #28 OPSenior Member OPSenior Member
 Dog starves to death in Costa Rican museumI am expressing my point of view. I'm sorry that I don't see this as truly abhorrent. He did not kill something, he let something die. Just like every person who saw the exhibit and did nothing to help. Just like we do every day when people die of starvation in all parts of the world. The only thing that made him so crazy is that if we were to see a dog dying in the streets of Costa Rica, we probably wouldn't touch it. Originally Posted by birdgirl73 Originally Posted by birdgirl73
 
 What would have been the alternative? Should he have left the dog in the street to be eaten half-alive by hungry dogs? Or should he have given it a tin of food to prolong its inevitable suffering? Or maybe adopted the dog and taken it to the vet and gave it a bath so the dog could live 7 more years? Or put this dog in a museum where the patrons will be forced to see the atrocity they've ignored in their streets, where his death might mean something?
 
 When was the last time you thought about the starving dogs in Costa Rica before this exhibit?
 
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	10-21-2007, 08:40 PM #29 Member Member
 Dog starves to death in Costa Rican museumhello from Costa Rica, 
 I must say as the proud owner of 2 wonderfull and spoiled pitbulls I agree with much of what has been said on this thread, and I do not agree that this "art" should have been permitted.
 allow me to shed some insight on life here in Central America: starving, dying, diseased, and seriously fucked up dogs are sadly a part of life here. which is why I dont think showing this "art" to people made much of an impact. this is not the USA, although we have a few shelters, there are no dog catchers who get a govt paycheck to roll around, scoop up the dogs and put them "humanely" down. Hopefully one day the gov't will back an SPCA, but that would mean first they have to eliminate children starving, 8 yr old crack fiends roaming the streets, people living in shacks with mud floors, clean drinking water for all etc, etc.
 
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	10-21-2007, 11:29 PM #30 Senior Member Senior Member
 Dog starves to death in Costa Rican museumThank you Costa Rica...from someone who is right in the middle of it. Graph....if you truly do not see the difference....I pity you. Strongly. I'm sorry, but that is the absolute truth. 
 
 There is a ALWAYS a price for what you do. ALWAYS. The "artist" will get his. He just doesn't know it yet.  
 
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