Quote Originally Posted by F L E S H
You want actual proof of Jesus? My point is exactly that: there's absolutely NO proof of Jesus anywhere in the entire world except for the New Testament, when he supposedly lived in a period where we have records of even the most slightly famous people...
this is from josephus, hes a 1st century jewish historian- 'Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man IF IT BE LAWFUL TO CALL HIM A MAN, for he was a doer of wonders, A TEACHER OF SUCH MEN AS RECEIVE THE TRUTH WITH PLEASURE. He drew many after him BOTH OF THE JEWS AND THE GENTILES. HE WAS THE CHRIST. When Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men among us, had condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him, FOR HE APPEARED TO THEM ALIVE AGAIN THE THIRD DAY, AS THE DIVINE PROPHETS HAD FORETOLD THESE AND THEN THOUSAND OTHER WONDERFUL THINGS ABOUT HIM, and the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not extinct at this day' (Antiquities 18:63-64).

well some say thats independant proof jesus exsists, but others contend it was added to his book by monks in the 3rd or 4th century to give additional credibility to christianity, i agree with the latter, but i guess its still up in the air whether its legit or not.

i definetlty 100 percently believe jesus isnt the son of god and theres no god, but he may have existed i just think the gospels exagerate the hell out of him.