The Historical Jesus: Fact or Myth?

[kronick]

just trying to explain that to you my friend...when u said that stuff about faith...you didnt seem to care that it couldnt be proven...and i dont think u do now either. so just dont say you're right about him existing...cause u dont know if he does...and ghost dosent kno if he dosent...and i am in the middle of this...im not taking sides.

[sawleaf]

just trying to explain that to you my friend...when u said that stuff about faith...you didnt seem to care that it couldnt be proven...and i dont think u do now either. so just dont say you're right about him existing...cause u dont know if he does...and ghost dosent kno if he dosent...and i am in the middle of this...im not taking sides.

Oh no I understand you, but where in my posts did I claim that I was right? I'm just not for people saying I'm wrong for my beliefs when they can't prove me wrong. I am Christian, but I am not here trying to prove God to anyone.

[kronick]

ok im sorry...but you implyed that you were right about god...sorry for the misunderstanding

*thinks* this fucking chew is great */thinks*

[GHoSToKeR]

Exactly, so what is the point of your posts and Ghost's?

lol whats the point of yours?

i ust like debating stuff.. i dont claim to know whether god exists or not.. personally, i dont think he does, but i'll never say that he doesnt, or that he does... but debating stuff with people like you, kronik and F L E S H is interesting, and its how we learn.. wheres the harm in it? if by debating our beliefs i have offended you, then i apologize.. i just thought we were having a 'conversation'

[kronick]

ghost....i love you

[F L E S H]

Yeah, this thread isn't ging how I'd hoped... lol

But Kronick, with the way you think, there's no point in debating anything about religion, since no one can prove anything, right? But that's boring. Besides, we're not discussing facts, but rather opinions. We can discuss those, I hope. SO if you're looking for facts, go look somewhere else.

[Looker]

This is a great thread by the way...

What I try to do with the Jesus thing is this....

Try not to get to hung up on whether or not we can pin down his tangible existence on paper, but instead try to use some of the parables and "his" teachings for good use. It is good to have some moral rules to live by otherwise who knows where we would all be right now...

You could spend your whole life debating whether or not the man existed, I am sure many lives have come and gone over the centuries trying to to just that...but like one of you said above, dont miss the point....

The bible is a rich interesting group of writings if not a history book, if we stop trying to make it into a history book, then we will get more good out of it.

[kronick]

It is good to have some moral rules to live by otherwise who knows where we would all be right now...

i agree 100%! but if you are going to choose a religion souly on that matter, i would suggest buddism. if it worn't for the fact that they believe in re-incarnation, i would probably be a buddist. i find their ways of life would most help the human race. but to be able for everyone to do that we would have to get ride of the greed we have...so life like that is far away...if at all.

but back to the point...no matter what religion a person chooses...there are people who dont follow it. some mob memebers are very religious (especially the italians, im not being racest...im italian. :P ) but there religion dosent stop them at all...they only not do, what they dont want to do...so at this point in time...im going to say that religion does not help people with that kinda living...because if a few people dont follow suit...it really dosent matter about the religion in the first place cause the people that dont do bad stuff dont do it cause of the law...and not religion...and some ppl just dont do it cause they find it wrong. most likly from the way they were raised, which could be cause of religion but since there are people killing others, it influences the odd person to do the same, "they are doing it...so it must be ok"...right? so back to the fact that its all just a visious circle of death. there will always be people killing other people...its really hard to explain it...did anyone understand? someone wanna try and explain it better than i did...and ill tell u if thats what i was trying to say

[sawleaf]

lol whats the point of yours?

i ust like debating stuff.. i dont claim to know whether god exists or not.. personally, i dont think he does, but i'll never say that he doesnt, or that he does... but debating stuff with people like you, kronik and F L E S H is interesting, and its how we learn.. wheres the harm in it? if by debating our beliefs i have offended you, then i apologize.. i just thought we were having a 'conversation'

No, not offended at all, Ghost, just was wondering what you were trying to get across.

[SuburbanLife224]

faith isnt proof

Exactly. Invert it. Proof is Faith. but what is faith? Everything. then whats everything???????????GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! nuh uh then whats god? EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!! how,,,,... what.... how do you know this ... what.. : confused : Confused? ummmmm no... yes... i dont know... huh... stop this...............................


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