The Historical Jesus: Fact or Myth?

[kronick]

I think people misunderstand the term 'theory'. Just because evolution is a theory, doesn't mean you can dismiss it as just a 'theory'. Electricity as we understand today is 'just' a theory. Nobody ever saw electrons, or their movement. Electricity is a theoretical construct that allows us to predict and understand how electrons might behave, even though we can't possibly see them with our current technology; but that doesn't mean we can debate the existence of electricity.

you know what...it really dosent matter what exactly the electrons are doing. who cares, all we need to kno is that it makes it possiable to live everyday life as you kno it. try being on this msn w.o it.

Same goes for evolution. Given what we know from fossil records and based on what we observe in micro-organisms today (like viruses evolving in order to become immune to anti-biotics), scientists came up with the theory of evolution.

and thats the same thing ive been say ing all along about the existance of god...you will never know...unless god comes to see us...but thats IF he comes at all...or IF there is actually a god or not.



"antibiotics" are ment to kill bacteria...not viruses

As for the question of faith in God, or Christ, or whatever, either you have it or you don't, and there's no point explaining it to others. Faith is a deeple personal thing.

if it is what i think is more possiable than the other(god probably dosent exist with what we know present day..but remember my opinion...not my final answer!) a psychiatrist might think that people with that kinda faith in god("deeply" personal thing) would be considered kinda crazy, but in more technical terms.

[sawleaf]

I don't even see where this is going at all. What are you trying to proove Ghost? I'm not trying to prove anything, but you seem to think I am. You are the one who doesn't understand faith. People without it seem to think it is this blind belief in something we have no proof of. For most of my life I didn't understand why people could believe blindly, but then I realized that they weren't believing in something they had zero proof of. It is a personal proof that goes beyond what a scientist or psychiatrist can prove or understand. It is very hard to understand unless you have experienced it or actually seen proof of a higher exsistence. You are entitled to your opinions Ghost, but if you are going to argue something make it clear what you are arguing about. It's okay if there is no God for you, but for me he exsists and is very real, you can't prove that he doesn't, and I am not here to try and prove anything to anyone. By the way Ghost, have you ever seen a ghost at all?

[kronick]

how do u kno that your "faith" isnt jst an imbalance of chemicals in your brain?how do u kno you havent ust convinced yourself that it is faith and not just something you made up? people convince them selves of A LOT of stuff (eg. bg/gf cheating on them and they try and believe its not happaning, pretty much not excepting the fact of truth...in other terms...being ignorant) denile is not just a river in egypt! im not saying you are wrong....but dont you think there is a SLIM chance that you are?

[F L E S H]

Hey Kronick, no offense, but you seem to have fun contradicting people just for the heck of it. It's a little annoying....

[sawleaf]

Yeah this thread is getting stupid. Who the hell are you Kronick? I have nothing to prove to you. You are of zero authority in my life. Did I ask you to prove your beliefs to me? You know nothing about me or what I've seen and experienced, so you're in no position to question. Believe what you want, I could care less. But just because you have never seen something does not mean it doesn't exsist.

[kronick]

im not trying to make you believe anything you dont want to...im just pointing out that fact that no matter how much u believe something....dosent mean its true...not matter what you say or especially how you feel about it.

[GHoSToKeR]

"you cant prove that he doesnt exist"

ive heard that argument so many times. You can NEVER prove that something does not exist, but this is not a valid argument FOR the existence of said thing.

[kronick]

Hey Kronick, no offense, but you seem to have fun contradicting people just for the heck of it. It's a little annoying....

i opose everything....especially when people demand they are right when there is no proof on the matter...im definatly not saying im right but i cannot explain arrogance without being arogant myself so there is a difference between the 2 kinds of arrogance.


but i can see both sides of an argument and argue for both sides...most people dont have the brain power to do that cause they think something and think what they think is right and its not open for discussion.

[kronick]

"you cant prove that he doesnt exist"

ive heard that argument so many times. You can NEVER prove that something does not exist, but this is not a valid argument FOR the existence of said thing.

you cant prove that he does exist and you cant prove that he dosent....end of story.

[sawleaf]

you cant prove that he does exist and you cant prove that he dosent....end of story.

Exactly, so what is the point of your posts and Ghost's?