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	10-19-2007, 03:23 AM #1 OPSenior Member OPSenior Member
 House Sustains Presidentâ??s Veto on Child HealthWASHINGTON, Oct. 18 â?? The House on Thursday upheld President Bushâ??s veto of a bill to provide health insurance to 10 million children, but Democrats vowed to send it back to him next month, with minor changes, in the belief that they could ultimately prevail. 
 
 Despite a multimillion-dollar advertising campaign and intense lobbying by childrenâ??s advocates, supporters of the bill were unable to convert a single House Republican who voted against the bill last month.
 http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/19/wa...th.html?ref=us
 
 HELL YEAH!:thumbsup: Take that cig tax and shove it!!:stoned:
 
 Have a good one!:s4:Psycho4Bud Reviewed by Psycho4Bud on . House Sustains Presidentâ??s Veto on Child Health WASHINGTON, Oct. 18 â?? The House on Thursday upheld President Bushâ??s veto of a bill to provide health insurance to 10 million children, but Democrats vowed to send it back to him next month, with minor changes, in the belief that they could ultimately prevail. Despite a multimillion-dollar advertising campaign and intense lobbying by childrenâ??s advocates, supporters of the bill were unable to convert a single House Republican who voted against the bill last month. Rating: 5
 
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	10-19-2007, 04:45 AM #2 Senior Member Senior Member
 House Sustains Presidentâ??s Veto on Child HealthGod Damnit! 
 
 I wanted the House to pass that bill. I want healthcare for my friends and family friends who are just above that level that forces a person to pay for their own healthcare. I'm all for universal healthcare no matter who you are.
 Sure, people are going to abuse it and shit all over it, but lots of people actually need healthcare and use it for good reasons, not to abuse it and get free drugs.
 
 As with anything, a few people who abuse the system will ruin it for all.
 
 Fucking party loyalty, think with your heart for godamn once, not just your pocketbook. A 1 cent tax increase on whatever the product is alright in my book, especially since I don't smoke.
 
 I guess Compassion and Republican/Conservative/Fascist are opposite things.
 
 Dave
 
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	10-19-2007, 10:57 AM #3 OPSenior Member OPSenior Member
 House Sustains Presidentâ??s Veto on Child Health1 cent.........try from 31 cents to a buck! Not to mention that this bill gives aid for families that DO NOT need it. 
 
 I guess supporting yourself and Democratic/Liberal/Socialism are opposite things. 
 
 Have a good one!:s4:
 
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	10-19-2007, 11:04 AM #4 Senior Member Senior Member
 House Sustains Presidentâ??s Veto on Child HealthIm glad it was vetoed. It gave the government way too much power. 
 
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	10-19-2007, 11:54 AM #5 Senior Member Senior Member
 House Sustains Presidentâ??s Veto on Child HealthYes, this needed to be vetoed we are already taxed to death! Man, it never stops amazing me at how the answer to all our problems is to spend more money! [COLOR=\"Red\"]It is well that the people of the nation do not understand our
 banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a
 revolution before tomorrow morning[/COLOR] - Henry Ford
 
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	10-19-2007, 12:07 PM #6 Senior Member Senior Member
 House Sustains Presidentâ??s Veto on Child Healthyep....that's the american way, isn't it? take a small group and vilify it, then you are free to tax it to death or restrict its freedoms or even outlaw it entirely. does this sound familiar? Originally Posted by DemoCommando Originally Posted by DemoCommando
 
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	10-19-2007, 06:34 PM #7 Senior Member Senior Member
 House Sustains Presidentâ??s Veto on Child HealthOne of the few things Bush has done right. This just would have been a subsidy for the middle class. They can afford there kids healthcare. 
 
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	10-19-2007, 11:12 PM #8 Senior Member Senior Member
 House Sustains Presidentâ??s Veto on Child HealthThis crass rejection of medical care for children, regardless of income, is just another mean spirited attack on the American people by the Repukes. That paltry amount is about a week and a half of Viet Nam, oops I mean Iraq spending. This is just the repukes way of smacking down the dems. When the '2008' elections come around, people will remember this atrocity and the Repukes will pay dearly, mark my words. 
 
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	10-19-2007, 11:15 PM #9 Senior Member Senior Member
 House Sustains Presidentâ??s Veto on Child Healthboth parties viewpoints are fucked up beyond belief 
 
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	10-19-2007, 11:42 PM #10 Member Member
 House Sustains Presidentâ??s Veto on Child HealthWe are all human. If one person is sick and we have the means, they should be helped. A completely socialist system is definitely not the answer, but healthcare and education should be universally available to all. That's the American dream. To be able to make something of yourself regardless of circumstance. 
 
 The K-12 public school system isn't perfect, but it didn't tern us into commies right?? How different would our civilization be without public schools? The smarter our nation is on the whole, the better off it is in the long run. It's a similar situation with healthcare. People can't function as well or at all if they're unhealthy. As it stands now, uninsured people about to die cannot be turned away from lack of insurance, but in most cases the $$ it would cost to prevent this in the first place is far less and not to mention safer.
 
 Of course the tax is up for debate. IMO funds should just be spent differently (less on military and subsidies, more on healthcare and education).a rolling stoner smokes his moss
 
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