Will this hurt?I ah

[pudder]

I have 10 plants that have been growing for about 2 weeks now. They have been on 24/0 ever since seedling. Well now that I have moved my cab my wife wants it dark and quite when we sleep. So I have to leave the light off or move it back to its original location and risk getting caught with emm.

My question is.

Will it hurt to switch from 24/0 to 18/6?

Pudder

pudder Reviewed by pudder on 10-18-2007. Will this hurt?I ah I have 10 plants that have been growing for about 2 weeks now. They have been on 24/0 ever since seedling. Well now that I have moved my cab my wife wants it dark and quite when we sleep. So I have to leave the light off or move it back to its original location and risk getting caught with emm. My question is. Will it hurt to switch from 24/0 to 18/6? Pudder Rating: 5

[stinkyattic]

It should be fine.

[pudder]

Thanks man. Just wanted to hear someone say that......

[Mr. Clandestine]

I could be mistaking, but I think StinkyAttic is a 'she'. If I am incorrect, please scold me Stinky! I apologize, if so!

As for your plants, there's nothing wrong with switching to an 18/6 photoperiod...especially if your plants are only a few weeks old. The only time you do not want to interrupt the light/dark period is when the plant is flowering. But when you're vegetating, experimentation isn't going to hurt your plant. You might, in fact, find out just what your strain responds best to.

In early growth, some darkness actually helps the roots to become better established in the growing medium. When the lights are on 24 hours a day, the plant tries to focus too much on foliage production...which becomes very difficult (and possibly even stressful) for the plant due to the fact that the root system is still so immature. During the light periods, photosynthesis is causing your plant to absorb the CO2 in the air and turn it into energy. During the dark periods, the plant uses that energy to promote strong & healthy root growth. This process keeps repeating itself over and over again, and eventually you have a big & healthy plant to deal with. As for later on in vegetative growth, after the plant has a well-established root system...there is no wrong answer to this question. Some growers like to keep the lights on all the time, while others try to mimic nature, at least somewhat, by giving the plant slightly similar light/dark conditions it would receive if it were growing outdoors. I generally always keep my lights on a 18/6 schedule, and am never disappointed with my end result. Or, if I am disappointed, it's certainly not because of my lighting schedule...but rather because of me goofing something up with my excessive experimentation!

Hope that helps.:rastasmoke:

[pudder]

Thanks Mr. Clandestine that was more detail. I wasn't sure how this would all work changing lights ya know. I am using bagseed so I have no idea what I am dealing with.

Another issue I am facing is the stems turning red. and some of the leaves look different then the rest. lower leaves are dark green while the new foliage is a lighter shade of green. I was thinking this is because of nutes. as I have read alot about them. I have just bought super bloom which is if i remember correctly 3-55-6 or something like that. and another nute that I am using right now 24-6-18. Plus other nutes that the plant needs for deficenceies. I read that red stems could be from lack of Nitrogen. So this should help if so. Otherwise plants look ok to me. But what Do I know I am a noob at this. Also I had to deal with some stretch because I didn't read enough before I started planting.

Here is a pic of the best looking plant I have. You can see the red stems.

any suggestions?

[Opie Yutts]

It shouldn't be a problem as long as the plants are growing well and healthy. Many people skip the veg stage and go directly to bloom from the cloning machine. You could consider that too. You could have your lights off 12 hr. per day, or even 13, thus adding substantial sleepy-time flexibility. While your wife is getting all that sleep you can be working on plans for your next SCROG grow in your new light-proof cabinet.

I agree with Mr. Clandestine about plants needing sleepy time just like humans and other animals. It's been proven that plants like to take in what they need during the light hours, and process that stuff in the dark hours. A lot of people have said that 24/0 is best for rooting cuttings, but I can't remember why that is. Anyone? Everything else in my grow is a light and dark period that is pretty much normal for a particular variety. That's usually around 18/6 or 12/12 for budding. I'm talking averages. Look up times for your particular plant or experiment, and try to get the evil hermie from hell. I usually add a half hour or a whole one to whatever lights on time is normal. I'm figuring more light = more weed, and they still have time to take care of night-time business.

Stinky is female, but it is possible to get away with a "heh man" or a "thanks man" when directed at a female. It doesn't necessarily mean she is being called a man. It could be interpreted many ways, such as she is being viewed as one of the guys, or one of the group. Kind of like saying "You guys" when talking to a group of females. It also depends on the overall temperament of the female, and the cycles of the moon and the sun. You may just get your head bitch-slapped clean off, have it kicked around a bit then propped up so you can watch, while your entire grow is forced down the hole in your neck.

Red stems may be OK. It could just be a reaction from seeing light and/or touching air at such a young age. I didn't see anything wrong with the stems on your plant. Mine look like that often. Lighter tinted green leaves toward the top are completely normal. At least I hope so, because mine do it quite often, and end up just fine. Just watch the edges of the leaves for yellowing, or curling. That's usually where you notice any problems starting (not always).

You should not be giving them such strong nutrients at 2 weeks old. Have you been feeding them from the start? Well, stop it! No nutrients the first two weeks, then if they look like they are doing OK, you can start adding nutrients at about 1/4 strength, and slowly build your way to full strength over about a month or more. I'm thinking you should flush that plant with PH-adjusted (6.8), chlorine-neutralized water, let it dry almost completely out, then start feeding at 1/4 strength. Also keep your light back about 1 foot for the first 2 weeks or so (I'm assuming your using CFLs), then gradually move it closer like you gradually increase food.

Good luck

[Mr. Clandestine]

It also depends on the overall temperament of the female, and the cycles of the moon and the sun. You may just get your head bitch-slapped clean off, have it kicked around a bit then propped up so you can watch, while your entire grow is forced down the hole in your neck.

:S2:
That's pretty damn funny! I think the alignment of the stars & planets might also have something to do with it, but I've yet to draw any real conclusions from that theory...during those moments I'm usually too busy getting bitched at to pull my telescope out of the attic. Thanks for the clarification about the gender of Stinky by the way...

And pudder: the plant that you've shown in the picture looks fine to me, as well. The stems on my plants also do that on a pretty frequent basis, and I don't exactly skimp on the nitrogen. So just be careful not to go overboard with a fertilizer based on that feature alone. Sometimes it's simply genetics that cause the stem to turn red/purple. I'm sure it'll change back to a light green color after it has had some more time to grow.

And definitely take Opie's advice about your nutrient regimen. Your plants are very young, and those fertilizers are powerful. They can kill your plants very quickly if added too much, too soon.

[pudder]

Thanks for the post.

I have looked at a load of plants and I see red on many of them. So I kind of figured that this is a normal thing. I have added nutes. the plants are now taking off they have been planted around 2 weeks and doing great. I have added 1/8 the dose to the water and the PH is fine now. the new stems that grew since yesterday are normal in color. May change but donig great. Also since the feeding the plants are standing on there own without the stakes. I have a lot of stretch when I first started out. but they are doing great now.

Thanks for all the replies.

[pudder]

It shouldn't be a problem as long as the plants are growing well and healthy. Many people skip the veg stage and go directly to bloom from the cloning machine. You could consider that too. You could have your lights off 12 hr. per day, or even 13, thus adding substantial sleepy-time flexibility. While your wife is getting all that sleep you can be working on plans for your next SCROG grow in your new light-proof cabinet.

I agree with Mr. Clandestine about plants needing sleepy time just like humans and other animals. It's been proven that plants like to take in what they need during the light hours, and process that stuff in the dark hours. A lot of people have said that 24/0 is best for rooting cuttings, but I can't remember why that is. Anyone? Everything else in my grow is a light and dark period that is pretty much normal for a particular variety. That's usually around 18/6 or 12/12 for budding. I'm talking averages. Look up times for your particular plant or experiment, and try to get the evil hermie from hell. I usually add a half hour or a whole one to whatever lights on time is normal. I'm figuring more light = more weed, and they still have time to take care of night-time business.

Stinky is female, but it is possible to get away with a "heh man" or a "thanks man" when directed at a female. It doesn't necessarily mean she is being called a man. It could be interpreted many ways, such as she is being viewed as one of the guys, or one of the group. Kind of like saying "You guys" when talking to a group of females. It also depends on the overall temperament of the female, and the cycles of the moon and the sun. You may just get your head bitch-slapped clean off, have it kicked around a bit then propped up so you can watch, while your entire grow is forced down the hole in your neck.

Red stems may be OK. It could just be a reaction from seeing light and/or touching air at such a young age. I didn't see anything wrong with the stems on your plant. Mine look like that often. Lighter tinted green leaves toward the top are completely normal. At least I hope so, because mine do it quite often, and end up just fine. Just watch the edges of the leaves for yellowing, or curling. That's usually where you notice any problems starting (not always).

You should not be giving them such strong nutrients at 2 weeks old. Have you been feeding them from the start? Well, stop it! No nutrients the first two weeks, then if they look like they are doing OK, you can start adding nutrients at about 1/4 strength, and slowly build your way to full strength over about a month or more. I'm thinking you should flush that plant with PH-adjusted (6.8), chlorine-neutralized water, let it dry almost completely out, then start feeding at 1/4 strength. Also keep your light back about 1 foot for the first 2 weeks or so (I'm assuming your using CFLs), then gradually move it closer like you gradually increase food.

Good luck

:S2:
That's pretty damn funny! I think the alignment of the stars & planets might also have something to do with it, but I've yet to draw any real conclusions from that theory...during those moments I'm usually too busy getting bitched at to pull my telescope out of the attic. Thanks for the clarification about the gender of Stinky by the way...

And pudder: the plant that you've shown in the picture looks fine to me, as well. The stems on my plants also do that on a pretty frequent basis, and I don't exactly skimp on the nitrogen. So just be careful not to go overboard with a fertilizer based on that feature alone. Sometimes it's simply genetics that cause the stem to turn red/purple. I'm sure it'll change back to a light green color after it has had some more time to grow.

And definitely take Opie's advice about your nutrient regimen. Your plants are very young, and those fertilizers are powerful. They can kill your plants very quickly if added too much, too soon.

One question what is a hermie?

I hear it all the time and haven't figured out what it is.

I haven't added nutes threw the whole life cycle as of now. Just added it wast night at the 2 week mark and it was a very small dose.

I will add some pics of what they look like now and what setup I have. the light is about 1 foot away from them as thy get to hot if closer.

Thanks for the help sorry if i messed any questions in your post.

here are some pics of what I have as of today.

these pics of the plants are new. The grow chamber has been upgraded with more lights which are off and the hood has been raised and there has been vents added for air flow along with a fan.

[Mr. Clandestine]

Looking good, those look like happy plants to me!

Oh, and a hermie is a hermaphrodite. Generally a bane that you don't want to find in your garden, but useful if you want to create feminized seeds. Though, I think the process has something to do with inducing a hermaphrodite by using a potent hormone called Gibberelin (sp?), then pollenating another female with the pollen produced from the female...or something along those lines.