Plants won't flower!

[Opie Yutts]

And again you and I have similar experiences. My first grow I was anal about lightproofing. Every grow since then, not so much. The latch on my flower room was broken, and the cat kept getting in and the hall light was leaking in. Then I moved them to my attic, and the big ass attic exhaust fan let all kinds of daylight in. So, three grows with less than optimal lightproofing, and nothing but good fat buds to show for it.

Not that I recommend it. I have just been fortunate.

Yup, like TryptamineScape says, sometimes you can abuse the heck out of them and they will grow anyway. Then again sometimes they can act real finicky. It's always best to show them a little TLC.

[TryptamineScape]

Right, you can't really abuse them and expect good luck every time, but you can't overdo it either, the result will be the same if you overabuse or overcare.

[wisco61]

Well, they are gonna be getting a lot less TLC now cause I finally got a job. So hopefully the theory of a hands off approach works.

As a side note, my job is stocking shelves at a grocery store 3rd shift. I'd say at least 20 times a night I see something and think, "Hey I could use that in my growroom!" Took me about 10 minutes longer than it should have in the lightbulb section cause I was checking the color spectrum on all the bulbs and what not. Something tells me about 1/4 of my 1st paycheck is gonna be spent at the store and the rest at the hydro shop. Guess the phone company is gonna have to wait a bit longerimp:

[Opie Yutts]

Hey, at least you got your priorities right.

[smoke_and_fly]

could be strain...

[psteve]

So the deal is, both daylight and grow bulbs will produce almost identical vegetative growth, but a grow bulb or any bulb that has most if it's spectrum concentrated in the red wavelengths will completely annihilate a daylight bulb when it comes to how the flowering stage turns out. Most anything will veg, but the flower stage is what's important. It's all about yield. So for the people that skip the veg stage, the outdoor bulb would be completely the wrong choice.

On paper, maybe. But in real life, I have seen the results of buds bloomed under both kinds of bulbs, and the difference is negligible. The plants grown under daylight bulbs were just as big and dense as the ones grown under 'soft white'.

[Opie Yutts]

On paper, maybe. But in real life, I have seen the results of buds bloomed under both kinds of bulbs, and the difference is negligible. The plants grown under daylight bulbs were just as big and dense as the ones grown under 'soft white'.

1) Of course in my last sentence on that, I meant to say "daylight" bulb not "outdoor" bulb.
2) I'm not saying you are wrong. Your experiences cannot be wrong unless your perceptions were really altered. However, I'll stick with the bulbs that have 6 times more red spectrum when I am budding, since it is proved that the red spectrum produces much better results when it's time to bud. I'll take what's been proved in experiments and on paper, over and over again by many people, over what someone perceives is happening when doing something the wrong way. Different strokes and all...

[Opie Yutts]

Even if the difference were negligible as you say, that means there is a difference. Considering that, and the way that red bulbs are more intense (lumens), and generally about half the price of blue ones, wouldn't it make more sense to buy the red ones for budding instead of blue?

[psteve]

Even if the difference were negligible as you say, that means there is a difference. Considering that, and the way that red bulbs are more intense (lumens), and generally about half the price of blue ones, wouldn't it make more sense to buy the red ones for budding instead of blue?

All I was trying to say (and I believe I said it) is that there is no 'wrong' CFL for flowering cannabis. They will all give satisfactory results.
I stand by that statement.

[wisco61]

Well, one for sure is in flower, it is a female with slight hemaphrodite leaning I believe. It has hairs on the upper bud sites, but I believe I see balls on one of the lower branches. I'm gonna give the balls a day or 2 more and if they don't show any hairs by then I will pick them off and keep an eye out for more throughout flowering. The other plant looks straight male, will give it a cpl more days but then its choppy chop. I do have another decent plant in veg and am flowering a clone of it atm so its all good unless that turns out male too.

Anyway it goes this is my first try so its all invaluable experience I am gaining.