Flowering 2 Master Kush

[MVP]

I would read Stinky's thread on cloning first, the noob thread I believe.

In short I would:
- do it during the final flush for best chance of success
- choose lower shoot with very little flowering
- use razor blade to cut, sterilize with alcohol first
- cuts should be ~ 3 inches in length total
- cut at 45 degree angle and scrape gently the outside of the stem (bottom 1/2 inch)
- carefully remove buds, but keep the sun leaves
- after cutting and scraping, place stem in water immediately so stem doesn't close up
- use a rooting hormone (Olivia's or Root Tech gel)
- use peat pods or root cube, rockwool, etc (you want to be able to observe the roots growing out of the bottom of the medium
- place under CFL, about 6 inches from light
- keep very high moisture and 24 hour light (humidity tent using a baggie)
- keep the little cuts warm (I use a heating pad under the container - helps but not critial)

I will try to dig up some info for you on how to do it step by step. Most importantly, if needed lightly mist them regularly 2-3x daily to keep humidity high.

Expect that it will take 10 days or longer to see roots, maybe even up to 3 weeks. I might just have to try this to see tomorrow to see how well it works.

[xcrispi]

Hey Sis . I can't find any of the emails we spoke of yesterday . =(
Look on here like MVP said for Stinkys guide . Sorry .
Crispi :jointsmile:

[Weedhound]

Well I did read Stinky's thread on cloning....but she writes like someone who knows their shit too well and has left out some details that interest me. For instance...what about Wiltproof? She talks about NOT spraying the clones themselves while others say you should. Sounds like it's time to talk to my hydro guy cause he realizes I need very specific instructions in easy language with no big words. :wtf:

MVP...thanks VERY much for that info....it helps TONS. I'll take all I can get. When you talk about removing the flowers should I try to leave even the sugar leaves on (those crusty small pups) and pick the bud off around them?

Rhizome said while it can be done it would be CHALLENGING (and he was actually talking about Rock and not even my situation).....that makes me nervous right there. I've given thought to reveg but especially with a plant that size I just don't have anywhere to put it with 24 hour lighting....not to mention the roots are already ABSOLUTELY FULL in the bucket.....and I DONT mean rootbound....I mean FULL. There are more roots on this thing than ANY of my previous grows.

[MVP]

Hey WH, I saw Opie talking in a separate thread about cloning 2 weeks prior to harvest (if I understood it right) so I asked 'em to stop by and give some input here... from the time stamp on the post it was middle of the night but hopefully we'll get some additional thoughts on the topic.

[Weedhound]

Oh SUPER!! Thanks. I'm just such a peanuthead when it comes to stuff...seems like i always have a million q's when I actually go to do things that I can't find in the instructions so I've found that ABSORBING absolutely as much info as possible at least gives me an edge when I hit a problem that I didn't think about (and i WILL hit a problem....) Going to have to get me my little humidity supplies and I have Clonex but is the Dip and Grow really as good as Stinky says? I'd have to buy that and toss the Clonex but if its THAT great.......

[MVP]

What type of grow medium are you planning to use? Peat pods? Rockwoot? Root Cubes? They all will work, but I learned on peat pods - they look like little coasters but when you add water they puff up and look like a big brown marshmellow of sorts.

From my perspective the rooting hormone is simply a personal choice. Back in the day (15 years ago) I used Olivia's Solution - a liquid- with peat pods and had a good success rate. Today I'm using Root Tech gel with rockwool and having a similar success rate. It's six on one hand, half-dozen on the other IMHO.

Stinky is right to not spray the cuts directly if possible, but to spray the tray and humidity dome to create the moisture.

Here are a few pics I just shot for you a minute ago:

pic 1 = little super skunk clone, very small but about the right size to stand up in a cube

pic 2 = roots starting to show thru, but needs more time to grow stronger before transplanting. Its like christmas day when you see the first tiny roots like this

pic 3 = poor lonely girl in a big dome. Notice I sprayed the tray and the dome to create moisture but not the leaves. Spraying the leaves will leach them, don't spray leaves

pic 4 = the dome on its shelf, heating pad beneath on low, under 2' flour fixture daylight tubes

pic 5 = her sister I transplanted yesterday. she was a bigger cut and rooted a few days quicker. she's a Super Skunk so I named her Pepe (as in Le Peuw)

[Weedhound]

I'll be using the rapid rooters....I start my seeds off in them as well and love I them....afraid of rockwool. Thanks for the photos.....visuals help me TONS!! I notice you did not cut your leaves down to an inch like Stinky does...any reason for that?
I remember when I tried cloning before (poorly) I sprayed the top of the dome which then dripped down onto the leaves themselves so should I limit spraying to sides and bottom of tray and dome? And should the inside of the dome be misted constantly...like 24/7 you should be seeing humidity in there?

[MVP]

Yes I do cut leaves back when necessary. Take a look at pic 5 - Ms Pepe - her leaves were cut in half to lower transpiration. The smaller girl was so little I did not want to eliminate leaf surface that synthesize the light. In the tray/dome I mist all surfaces including the lid but use a fine mist setting and 'fog' it rather than saturate the dome.

Since I use a heating pad it tends to dry up the moisture so I spray 3-4 times a day or more and have to watch the medium so make sure it does not dry out. I also water my medium very gently from the bottom when it dries out a bit (pick her up, turn her upside down, use a dropper to apply water til its moist on the bottom) - I'm encouraging the roots to grow down to the moisture and heat.

[Weedhound]

Excellent excellent.:thumbsup:...one last question (right.....) If you were to take a lower branch....you want it 3 inches long.....would you carefully clip the buds off and leave ALL the sun and sugar leaves? And lets say you have a 3 inch long bud.....should you make your clone bigger and make sure you leave some "regular" stem to scarify (Opie's word) and place into the medium or just snip off the bud from that 3 inches and pop it in? In other words should I take a six inch cutting if the top three inches are all bud? This plant is large enough that if I cut below the "next node" that's a fair amount of branch. Does it have to be snipped just below a node?

[MVP]

Hey WH, gotta run to pick up family at the airport... I'll answer in a couple of hours. Also if you have Cervantes' book it has a good step by step section on cloning. If not I can help you with that as well. I'll post back after 2pm PT, let me know any other Q's or pics you want and I'll answer them too.