Some front line views of the war against God.

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I know exactly what evolution means, it is a process of development, a process in which something passes by degrees to a different stage.

Okay, now I think YOU should understand that the evolution I am talking about is on an extremely macro evolutionary basis and considering human evolution with regards to DARWINIST ORTHODOX evolution (you know, the one they teach in schools?), not just 'change'.

I mentioned this in my previous post, please read it thoroughly.

You have a lot of previous posts. You keep giving examples of how evolution should fail, even in regards to "micro" evolution.

well, I dont think it is fair to call intelligent design a superstition, you need to understand the meanings of words before you enter these debates.

I didn't, I called it a supposition. Something one "supposes". Maybe you should learn to read before you tell someone to learn the language.

Your pertaining to the belief that we "consider" intelligent design through fear and ignorance, I dont call atleast the process of giving careful thought to something to be labelled an act of ignorance and fear.

I consider an intelligent designer, not because I am scared of the wrath of this intelligent designer (it could have died many a thousand year ago) but because I am open minded enough to hold the consideration of it.

You're creating a strawman argument, I say we shouldn't consider it until it has some proof. It has nothing to do with ignorance and fear, that's reserved for religion.

Being open minded is a wonderful thing, I'll consider anything as a possibility even the Flying Spaghetti Monster. But when there is no proof for the thing I'm being open minded to, it doesn't have the same weight as things that do have proof.

What your forgetting is that there is a missing link to show the evolutionary path between ape and human, and even so, the 'proof' you have described brings up many other new theories such as co existence.

This is why I said, do not presume evolution is 100% correct, the more evidence they find the more theories they open, and a strong theory by modern scientists is co existence.

Point me to these theories of coexistence, please.

This is a very brief overview (im very tired) but may that not mar the authority of this description, this archaeologist lost her job, her research funds and her entire team was split up due to the finds. Simply because it went against the universal held 'truth' and assumption that we evolved from these ancient mammals.

Again, you really do like to borrow arguments from creationists. If you had a link to it, that'd be cool to read about, and (probably, but not certainly) laugh at.

Well it depends on your interpretation and perception of this silver like skin, I mean if I was to wrap you in foil and send you out into the sun im sure it would not be very effective.

Is this the kind of work you believe can be linked to the likes of natural selection and billions of years of evolution.

This was my point, you can percieve the skin to be a magical absorbing material which calculates perfectly the correct amount of vitamin D and sunlight for the skin to be exposed to etc, which would be more fit a suit for survival.

Or you can look at it from the foil example.

Ill give you 3.8 Billion years to think about it.

I don't think skin is magical, so you're setting up yet another straw man that's easier for you to knock down. Evolution isn't a perfect process, like cows. My internet is really screwing up tonight, so I can't actually research anything tonight with any sense of speed. So I'll go by memory and say that cows have a stomach with 4 compartments. A cows stomach is inferior to ours, we have one part that does everything for us, not 4 parts for 4 stages.

We don't always get "the best" stuff, we just get something that enables us to survive.

So humans came from apes. Right.

Sorted, forget EVERYTHING ELSE.

And this is where I start ignoring you. I specifically said "From what I've read, we have a common ancestor with apes, if that's what you mean. I think this is based on solid fact, yes"

Just because a Canadian shares an ancestor (or father) from Russia with an American, that doesn't infer that the Canadian came from America, or vice versa.

If all you're going to do is set up straw men, put them in a crop field, please.

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