So your saying there is always a way to dispute fact?

I say if you jump off a 100 story building, when you hit the ground your heart will stop.

Theres always a way to dispute fact?

Dispute that one.
Quantum Mechanics state that that is not always true. Its only incredibly probable, and nigh impossible to not happen, but still possible.

Why do you continuously relate Intelligent design to religion? Isnt it a simple fact to you as to anyone else that someone can actually believe in intelligent design WITHOUT religion?
Fine, a giant bean monster created us and the world around us, but what created the bean monster? Did it evolve, or did something create it? What created that something... so on and so forth. ID has to rely on abiogenesis and evolution to explain itself if it excludes a dietistic being creating things.

What - so we really did evolve from apes? (lol)
Come on now, are you even going to make an attempt here to be serious. Evolution does not state that we evolved from apes in its base form, and you know it. Its another hyperbole used to try to immediately discredit it by making it sound as rediculous as possible, just like the we evolved from rocks statement earlier.

And your a philosopher, apparently so why on earth must you follow a belief in which you do not agree with the belief of questioning EVERY belief?

Why do you (a philosopher not an evolutionist or a creationist) disagree with me?

I dont understand your motives here imitator.
I do not, not believe in evolution, or creationism. I feel they are both viable in their own rights, although I do believe that evolution has been proven much more then creationism has, in all its time as a theory.

My motives is to see how you plan on teaching creationism without involving religion. Ive decided im not going to address any of your other points until you answer that, as thats really all I care about. I could spend all day with people here debating symantics with you as we have been, but when you get down to the brass tacks of it, we can solve all of this with that answer.

How do you feel is best to teach creationism/ID in schools without involving any religion? Thanks.