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Well actually this isnâ??t really a strong enough response to flaw the response I gave you.

I never once said evolution is flawed, if you actually read or understand anything of what im saying you wouldnâ??t need to waste my time.

Im not going to say it again because im sick of repeating myself.

I feel your being purposely ignorant to annoy me.

I never once said evolution is not true and flawed, I said that we must also show in education the negative side to evolution.
let's follow the argument. This is your reason

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My original reasons for bringing up eugenics was based around the fact that evolutionary thinking and doctrines which were created by the founder of evolution Charles Darwin gave birth to terrible atrocious ideologies SUCH AS eugenics.

These points in turn are not communicated effectively in the schooling system (which is the original topic - stick to it or leave this thread and create your own if you wish to debate evolution Vs creationism), the negative sides to evolution AND creationism must be addressed
So to change some of the language that I've used in previous posts, but to generally make it mean the same thing...

My original reasons for bringing up astrology was based around the fact that astronomy and star positions which have been around a long time gave birth to silly and absurd ideologies SUCH AS astrology.

These points in turn are not communicated effectively in the schooling system, the negative sides to astronomy must be addressed.

Look familiar? You keep saying that you're not trying to use eugenics to show flaws in evolution, yet you do keeps saying that you're trying to show the link between them to show the "negative aspects" of evolution, which seems like a case of poe-tay-toe/poe-tah-toe to me.

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And I dont care what analogy you use from apples to aliens to astrology, it doesnt bother me the fact remains that the analogy you used was completley stupid and my response about the apple and the alien flawed it senselessly.
How do you figure? I used a silly analogy to show that the link between eugenics and evolution is about the same as the link between astrology and astronomy. You even said, before replying with your own silly analogy, that my scenario was correct. But if the scenario is correct, how does it not apply to evolution and eugenics?

If you disagree with my reasoning, point out why it isn't a valid reasoning instead of just resorting to calling it stupid.

You need to make a link to eugenics, it seems, to have an argument that there are "negative aspects" to evolution. Claiming you've made the link by showing that the founders of each are related and that eugenics has a false interpretation of evolution is the best you can do?

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I have no problem with evolution (ive been saying this all along if youve been paying attention) its just the fact that the negative aspects or alternative beliefs (which can be classed as just as valid) are just shoved to the bottom of the text book pile in education.
You do keep saying that, and you also keep trying to show "negative aspects" of evolution in the same breath.

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Yes exactly thank you for exemplifying the points I have been trying to make, I agree yet the same can be applied to creationism, which is why we should not shove the text books "to the bottom of the pile" in the classroom, we should give creationism as a viable option (this is all ive been saying all along) im not here to debunk evolution just to make you aware that it could be as flawed as the flying spaghetti monster

So thanks for understanding after all this time.
I fail to see the relation between a Dr Dino contest with rules that alter the definition of evolution, has to do with why creationism is a viable option to teach in classrooms.

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So you have no answer?

Do you realise that your 'system' only really punishes and catches a very very small percentage of the people who commit these acts.

Its all fine to believe that we have evolved enough not to want to kill each other but - we havent, and until you can prove that we have you have no explanation for my questions but utter hypothesis.
The questions have no point in regards to evolution anyways. Who punishes a mantis for killing it's mate? And what does that have to do with evolution?

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more stuff about eugenics and evolution
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And yet more stuff about eugenics
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Which is why if we pump childrenâ??s mind with theories which lack morality (being that you say we must be at a highly evolved conscious state to avoid murder, rape etc which we are not) it would be stupid to carry on teaching children theories which lack morality being as we have not reached this amazingly high evolved conscious level yet.
So because evolution lacks morality, we shouldn't teach it to children? Morality should be as much of a concern with regards to evolution as morality does with math.
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