So, uh, what's your point? I'm related to a lot of people who have viewpoints that are sometimes similar to mine and sometimes different from mine.
Thanks for joining:thumbsup:

I donâ??t care about your relatives the fact remains that I have proved that eugenics and evolutionary Darwinist thinking are related, this argument is dead.

I ended it by showing that the two are incredible interlinked.

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the reason I brought up Astrology was because astronomy gave birth to such silly ideas as astrology. I don't see how it's not relevant to show that just because evolution gave birth to some odd and flawed ideas, that evolution itself must be flawed.
Well actually this isnâ??t really a strong enough response to flaw the response I gave you.

I never once said evolution is flawed, if you actually read or understand anything of what im saying you wouldnâ??t need to waste my time.

Im not going to say it again because im sick of repeating myself.

I feel your being purposely ignorant to annoy me.

I never once said evolution is not true and flawed, I said that we must also show in education the negative side to evolution.

And I dont care what analogy you use from apples to aliens to astrology, it doesnt bother me the fact remains that the analogy you used was completley stupid and my response about the apple and the alien flawed it senselessly.

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I haven't yet said that evolution or creation is true either, nor have I categorized you. It seems that you are the one that is prejudging me.
But your posts are directed to the defence of evolution, do not change your motives because it is clear you are here to defend a debate which doesnâ??t even exist.

You realised this too late and now your trying to drag yourself out of the silly boat lol.

I have no problem with evolution (ive been saying this all along if youve been paying attention) its just the fact that the negative aspects or alternative beliefs (which can be classed as just as valid) are just shoved to the bottom of the text book pile in education.

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I know the reason you mentioned Dr Dino, because Delta asked about this institute that offers money for proving that evolution can be proven. Now because this contest hasn't had it's money claimed, that doesn't show that evolution is not true.
Yes exactly thank you for exemplifying the points I have been trying to make, I agree yet the same can be applied to creationism, which is why we should not shove the text books "to the bottom of the pile" in the classroom, we should give creationism as a viable option (this is all ive been saying all along) im not here to debunk evolution just to make you aware that it could be as flawed as the flying spaghetti monster

So thanks for understanding after all this time.

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In case you hadn't noticed, we've taken it upon ourselves to punish people who kill. To put it in simple terms, maybe humans have "evolved" to think that killing each other is bad.
So you have no answer?

Do you realise that your 'system' only really punishes and catches a very very small percentage of the people who commit these acts.

Its all fine to believe that we have evolved enough not to want to kill each other but - we havent, and until you can prove that we have you have no explanation for my questions but utter hypothesis.

And regardless, I won't be in contradiction, because I still haven't stated if I believe in evolution. You're billing me as an "evolutionist" the same way others are accusing you of being a creationist,
By all means I do not mean to bundle you into the segment of evolutionists, but clearly if you dont agree with the fact that evolution has given rise to terrible schools of thought as has religion then what is your debate here?

Why are you here?

To tell me that im wrong? Wrong and that evolution has not actually been so bad that we shouldnt question it and give creationism to the children as a viable reason or option as to how and why we came about?

I await your response

that's exactly my point, now you are the one that is strengthening my argument. Just because darwin's half cousin (zomg half cousin cahoots WTF?!?! an aside, this is probably why people are calling you a troll) gave birth to eugenics, that doesn't invalidate evolution,
Wrong. Clearly you dont understand that I was finding a RELATION to eugenics and evolution not trying to DEBUNK evolution.

I did not attempt to relate eugenics to evolution as a means to invalidate it, (I think your loosing track of this debate) Delta told me that the two are not related, I said that they are and I proved this, how on earth does this mean I wish to invalidade the theory of evolution? LOL.

Infact not once have I claimed evolution is untrue.

I simply said it has given birth to schools of thought based around eugenics and selective breeding, the person who thought up these items was related to Charles Darwin this does not mean that evolution is not true and I never said this was a reason why evolution is invalid.

So I await your response to this mistake you have made.

But you're presenting eugenics as a problem with evolution, at the same time as denying that there's a problem between apple beasts and apples.


No, you are free to perceive it this way as monkeys are free to perceive us as idiots.

Please... Read on..

Yet eugenics I have not once mentioned is a problem with evolution, clearly it works well with evolution but how about with morality and reasoning?

I suggest you fully understand the bases behind the fields of study you wish to debate about before confronting people and attempting to flaw them by creating your own targets to knock down.

If I have genuinely made a mistake you are free to debunk me and fool me as you please. I donâ??t care, I live and learn.

Yet I not once said that eugenics is in any way a means to debunk evolution and prove it invalid, this is stupid, neither did I say eugenics and evolution are incompatible (this even worse) I simply said that eugenics (being that it is tied in with evolution) and has a very large question mark about it, and thus must signal us to also display this question mark to the youth in classrooms.

Evolution carries certain negative fields of thought LIKE EUGENICS and human selective breeding which is one of the reasons why we should raise questions in classrooms of morality, you claim we will evolve and become moral 'Gods', your hypothesis may work if it were true yet today in todayâ??s world it is but a hypothesis which is not true.

Which is why if we pump childrenâ??s mind with theories which lack morality (being that you say we must be at a highly evolved conscious state to avoid murder, rape etc which we are not) it would be stupid to carry on teaching children theories which lack morality being as we have not reached this amazingly high evolved conscious level yet.

Even so, you cannot say if we will ever achieve it.

As we move forth into the future I only see war and conflict on a higher level.