It isn't a question about morality. Why do you bring morality into it? You can't disprove evolution by bringing up a point about "morality."
Im not and never have tried to disprove evolution, I simply said that there exists the question of morality in regards to the theory of evolution, saying this does not mean I am attempting to 'disprove' it.

For all we know morality does exist in evolutionary thinking and we will all be punished for putting our own selfish desires and needs before others, on the other hand there could be no universal law or God to punish us for trying to survive.

Im just saying that these are the kinds of questions which need to be addressed by evolutionists, including the lack of evidence and the negative aspects to the theory, atleast give the students/school kids creationism as another potential viable option.

You cant just rule it out.

Im not taking either a creationists or evolutionists perspectives side.

Its easy to debate someone when you categorize them into a particular belief, or segment of thinking. This is the first step, to find out exactly what you wish to shoot down.

Well, your posts get kind of long and boring, so I do end up skimming.
Well I cant always compensate for the lack of your attention span, if you find them boring then dont read them. Believe in evolution as you see fit to believe it is true then please do so.

Like I said before, atheists are at the bottom of the pile for me, and im no creationist (confused?)

I see much more corruption in the realms of religion than in the realms of the theory of Evolution. Religion is a doctrine, and Evolution is a theory.
You seem to be one of the millions of people who move from one theory to the other without questioning yourself or the theories you believe.

Im presuming at some point in your life you were religious, something, some kind of questioning and thinking brought you away from it and you chose evolution?

How about questioning evolution?

There is as much evidence to support evolution as there is to support the creation of us by the Judea Christian God.

Take that into consideration before you move on forums proclaiming how stupid creationists are.

Religion is a doctrine, and Evolution is a theory.
And what point are you trying to make here? That doctrines are more evil than theories?

And how do you go about measuring such an absurd statement?

If your brother was a more intelligent/stronger individual than you then eugenics tells me (which derives from evolution) that you are inferior, you are not needed on this earth so you will be killed.

Your wasting valuable resources by existing (remember we are trying to improve humanity) - who needs disabled people? Who needs deaf people? Who needs any of these people?

This is the thinking that evolution has given birth to.

EUGENICS

So donâ??t ever sit there saying that religion has not caused as much evil as evolution because if you do research on some of the horrific aspects and history of eugenics programmes it will lead you to the most horrid areas of Nazi Germany you have ever seen in your life.

So think about that before you accuse religion of such evils, and what evils? Corrupt priests and caliphs? Notice the word CORRUPT!


Perhaps you mean that you see corruption in science as well? Of course there is. One example is the demonizing of cannabis, and false scientific reports on how "bad" it is.
Demonising cannabis? Is that the best you can come up with? How about eugenics which I keep mentioning? How about preservation of blood lines? Nazi Germany practiced eugenics and population control thoroughly.

Evolution gives birth to ideologies such as the Superior master white races such as the aryans race, who feel they are the most evolved species.

Remember evolution states that we evolved from rocks.

Why donâ??t you do some research on Josef Mengele, a profound believer of evolution and eugenics.

Nazi eugenics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Josef Mengele - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

(I hope im not boring you)

If you believe in evolution and I asked you questions such as, do you think innocent people should be killed so that you can survive? You would have to answer yes to avoid contradiction.

Charles Darwin was a racist plagiarist, who wrote his grandfathers work the origin of species.

Im not going to debate from a creationists perspective with you because I not once said I support the views of creationism, I am just saying that evolutionist/atheists should firstly consider the validity of their own beliefs before claiming creationists are idiots and retards.

Leading Nazis, and early 1900 influential German biologists, revealed in their writings that Darwinâ??s theory and publications had a major influence upon Nazi race policies. Hitler believed that the human gene pool could be improved by using selective breeding similar to how farmers breed superior cattle strains. In the formulation of their racial policies, Hitlerâ??s government relied heavily upon Darwinism, especially the elaborations by Spencer and Haeckel. As a result, a central policy of Hitlerâ??s administration was the development and implementation of policies designed to protect the â??superior raceâ??. This required at the very least preventing the â??inferior racesâ?? from mixing with those judged superior, in order to reduce contamination of the latterâ??s gene pool. The â??superior raceâ?? belief was based on the theory of group inequality within each species, a major presumption and requirement of Darwinâ??s original â??survival of the fittestâ?? theory. This philosophy culminated in the â??final solutionâ??, the extermination of approximately six million Jews and four million other people who belonged to what German scientists judged as â??inferior racesâ??.


So before you make claims such as:

I see much more corruption in the realms of religion than in the realms of the theory of Evolution.
I suggest you research 'in favour of your opposition' if you truly believe you are correct about what you say then look at it from every angle.

People often say the Nazi movement was a mass implementation of Darwinian thinking.

I would agree.

I just want you to understand what you are actually saying when you type messages on here. You need to look at both sides of the story, I am in no way saying evolution is not true, I am in no way saying creationism is or is not true. You can put words in my mouth and categorize my belief system all you like yet this is an illusion you are creating to entertain your boredom.

Evolutionists must realise the lack of evidence of what they talk about in terms of criticizing creationists, this leads me back to the original subject about teaching evolution in schools as oppose to creationism. As you know I still stand by my claims that children should be told of the lack of evidence, and the negative side of evolution, and also shown creationism/intelligent design as a viable reason for our coming of existence.

This was my original point, the fact that I mentioned the "question of morality" is just an example of one of the items which should be told to students with regards to the theory of evolution, I by no means say that evolution completely lacks morality (but there is a huge question mark) yet these kinds of questions and 'sides of the story' are never put forward in education.

The history of the evils of religion, evolution and indoctrination into cults for example itself must be addressed - this does not mean mfqr you need to post me back a message complaining about me criticizing indoctrination and cults - but in essence this is what you have been doing over your past few messages (an example being the subject of evolution and morality).

This is why I say I hope you are reading my posts thoroughly, if you lose attention then I guess this is not an area for you.

You said:

Well, your posts get kind of long and boring, so I do end up skimming.
Cannabis has been shown to lower the attention spans of smokers and effect memory and concentration maybe you should cut back on the weed?

(Im actually trying to make this more fun for your brain by changing colours and text size and fonts etc, I hope this helps.)

Im just giving examples of the kinds of questions which are never asked by evolutionists of themselves or even by creationists about their own beliefs.

The ignorance exists on both sides.

And you are free to disagree.
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