Some front line views of the war against God.

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No its not because you are not in touch with the foundations of this debate and why I brought up the whole question of eugenics.

You are hijacking this thread.

My original reasons for bringing up eugenics was based around the fact that evolutionary thinking and doctrines which were created by the founder of evolution Charles Darwin gave birth to terrible atrocious ideologies SUCH AS eugenics.

the reason I brought up Astrology was because astronomy gave birth to such silly ideas as astrology. I don't see how it's not relevant to show that just because evolution gave birth to some odd and flawed ideas, that evolution itself must be flawed.

This is why you have not realised the foundations of my points in this debate which did not concern you, you just jumped in uninvited as you always do.

Sorry, I've read the entire thread, as I always do.

Again I must point out for the millionth time that your debates and points do nothing by exemplify the theory of evolution which itself has never been proven and along with an atheists perception of causes of existence.

You are free to believe, as creationists do in a theory which is based upon no evidence.

I have not once said that evolution is not true, yet if you wish to continue to categorize me into the segment of creationists then please do so, I am not one.

I haven't yet said that evolution or creation is true either, nor have I categorized you. It seems that you are the one that is prejudging me.

Again - why do you continually stray from points you cannot answer?

The man can be a rapist for all I care, he could be an inter dimensional alien being from mars with a wife and children on private health care with BUPA. It doesnt matter.

I didnt give that link to reccommend a speaker/author to you.

I did it because Delta 9 asked me to provide it for him as evidence, and yes I provided it. Which is more than what I can say for evolutionists and their evidence!

It doesnt matter who offers the reward, the most significant factor is that none of you atheistic evolutionists can answer to it.

I know the reason you mentioned Dr Dino, because Delta asked about this institute that offers money for proving that evolution can be proven. Now because this contest hasn't had it's money claimed, that doesn't show that evolution is not true. It's quite a possibility that delta also knows the fallacies of this contest, so he doesn't include it as a known contest. The reason I mentioned anything about his morality was to show that the contest has it's own problems, even if it were set up by someone else (a scientist even), so I can't pin it on Hovind being "crazy". I don't care what Hovind's morals are either, I just want to show the flaws of the contest.

from wikipedia, the definition of evolution

In biology, evolution is the change in the inheritedtraits of a population from generation to generation. These traits are the expression of genes that are copied and passed on to offspring during reproduction. Mutations in these genes can produce new or altered traits, resulting in heritable differences (genetic variation) between organisms. New traits can also come from transfer of genes between populations, as in migration, or between species, in horizontal gene transfer. Evolution occurs when these heritable differences become more common or rare in a population, either non-randomly through natural selection or randomly through genetic drift.

Dr Dino's Definition of Evolution* (yes, he has an asterisk in his contest on the word evolution)

*NOTE: When I use the word evolution, I am not referring to the minor variations found in all of the various life forms (microevolution). I am referring to the general theory of evolution which believes these five major events took place without God: 1. Time, space, and matter came into existence by themselves.2. Planets and stars formed from space dust.3. Matter created life by itself.4. Early life-forms learned to reproduce themselves.5. Major changes occurred between these diverse life forms (i.e., fish changed to amphibians, amphibians changed to reptiles, and reptiles changed to birds or mammals).

Evolution doesn't claim that these things happened without God. Hovind also wants one to "Prove beyond reasonable doubt that the process of evolution ... is the only possible way the observed phenomena could have come into existence."

Evolution doesn't make the claim that it's the only way that it could have happened, just the most likely way based upon evidence. They can't prove that invisible evolution fairies, with no discernible mass or volume that can be captured with our testing measures, didn't bring upon the changes in any kind of evolution, because it wasn't observed, and there's no evidence for it (being unmeasurable and all).

Dont rule out creationism and think you are 'above' it because you watch Richard Dawkins videos on youtube, I know people - a profound amount of creationists who study science related subjects in masters and Degree level qualifications, they are all creationists.

That's fine and dandy, I know quite a few scientists and engineers, most of who are atheists. That doesn't mean a thing.