Astrology is based upon the positions of the stars. Just because there is something wrong with astrology, that doesn't invalidate the position of the stars, only the assumptions or interpretations derived from them.
No its not because you are not in touch with the foundations of this debate and why I brought up the whole question of eugenics.

You are hijacking this thread.

My original reasons for bringing up eugenics was based around the fact that evolutionary thinking and doctrines which were created by the founder of evolution Charles Darwin gave birth to terrible atrocious ideologies SUCH AS eugenics.

These points in turn are not communicated effectively in the schooling system (which is the original topic - stick to it or leave this thread and create your own if you wish to debate evolution Vs creationism), the negative sides to evolution AND creationism must be addressed, unfortunately we give the children no choice - you cannot just rule out creationism and say we evolved from rocks because there is no evidence to support evolution anyway.

How on earth can you replace a theory which has no evidence to support it with another theory with no evidence and label the latter as truth?

Do you see the paradox evolutionists reside in now?

Atleast give them the option and hold creationism as a viable reason for existence.

You cannot whatsoever, any evolutionist cannot rule out intelligent design, this is something you will have to live with until you complete the endless task of trying to prove that we evolved from rocks, into aquatic organisms and so forth into apes and into humans.

Of course animals in their kingdom may evolve without taking into account the fact that the theory of evolution has created such terrible things in OUR societies and history.

This is why you have not realised the foundations of my points in this debate which did not concern you, you just jumped in uninvited as you always do.

Why is this? What if I view evolution simply as something that happens, and not something we are to persue? We do kill to survive, we kill many other animals and plants. We've set up a society that not everyone needs to be a hunter or a gatherer. The people collecting and hunting the food could simply not allow anyone else to get it, but then some of the other 6 billion people might realize this and kill the hunters (with more advanced weaponry), and hunt on their own. We've come to realize that the species can survive though sharing and diversity (ie: not killing each other). How does this conflict with evolution again?
Again I must point out for the millionth time that your debates and points do nothing by exemplify the theory of evolution which itself has never been proven and along with an atheists perception of causes of existence.

You are free to believe, as creationists do in a theory which is based upon no evidence.

I have not once said that evolution is not true, yet if you wish to continue to categorize me into the segment of creationists then please do so, I am not one.

And Dr. Dino... I'm off to a concert, but if no one else point out the many flaws of the contest design itself, I'll do so either tonight or tomorrow, without bringing up Dr Dino's moral character.
Again - why do you continually stray from points you cannot answer?

The man can be a rapist for all I care, he could be an inter dimensional alien being from mars with a wife and children on private health care with BUPA. It doesnt matter.

I didnt give that link to reccommend a speaker/author to you.

I did it because Delta 9 asked me to provide it for him as evidence, and yes I provided it. Which is more than what I can say for evolutionists and their evidence!

It doesnt matter who offers the reward, the most significant factor is that none of you atheistic evolutionists can answer to it.

And this is a reason why we should still give our children the option of choosing intelligent design above evolution.

Dont fool yourselves into thinking evolution and scientific study is 'above' religion.

I want everyone in here to - if they believe so much that their scientific athetistic study is above religion to read a book called "Science and Islam".

Like I said you may think your climbing the mountain of truth, yet when you reach the top a creationist COULD be sitting there.



Dont rule out creationism and think you are 'above' it because you watch Richard Dawkins videos on youtube, I know people - a profound amount of creationists who study science related subjects in masters and Degree level qualifications, they are all creationists.

Studying science for some of my friends brought them closer to religion, one friend in particular said science and islam do not contradict each other.

So I believe that children in the educational system should be given the option of creationism as it is still as viable a theory as evolution.

This is all im saying, I by no means intend to say evolution is entirely not true.