Quote Originally Posted by Fallen_Icarus
Firstly, im not saying things have to be proven for them to exist, that doesnâ??t make sense because elements of life exist which have not been proved yet - like conscious air, or intuition etc etc.

Read what I wrote again, im just saying teachers should ATLEAST tell students that evolution has still to be proven to be true, there are numerous missing links and Darwin also stole much of his work from his Grandfather (not that this has anything to do with the validity of the theory of evolution) - Evolution births ideas such as eugenics - which im sure you understand has resulted in some horrid experimental catastrophes - teaching that intelligence is in a blood line and power is in a blood line is not morally correct.

Evolution itself has no morality - Richard Dawkins - a profound evolutionist has spoken of the complete lack of morality in terms of evolution.

And if you donâ??t prove anything, then your basis is only a hypothesis - what if the theory of gravity was in actual fact - not right? It was only shown to be true when it was PROVED.

Your correct in a sense, but its a question of odds, often some theories just happen to be true once proven, some people create good theories, yet there are theories LIKE EVOLUTION OF US which needs to be proven true because - they may just be wrong.

Sorry to ramble on, I hope you understand my point.

Of course things do not have to be proven for them to exist but it would be nice to know if we actually did evolve from lower form animals into higher forms without any intervention, I was just saying people should not automatically rule out intelligent design as they do in schools, because they dont even give the kids an option (this is all I was saying).

There should be a balance in our schooling system by which children in science classes are still told that evolution is not proven IN OUR STORY (because it simply is not) there are numerous missing links blah blah.

Your American schooling system does not teach the benefits of communism and socialistic Governing im guessing?




As stories of the bible are told at the beginning it should be said that nothing of the existence of Jesus Christ can be proven.

The same applies for the theories we teach our children of evolution.

They should know that it is as much BULL$%$ÂŁ a theory as the flying spaghetti monster. AND intelligent design.





Well, neither is evolution when you try and explain our existence.

I noticed someone speaking of 2 theories to choose from?

Creationism or evolution?

How about a combination of these?

Perhaps we were created and designed and engineered to evolve at such a rapid rate compared to our cousin animals whom according to evolutionists such as Dawkins have also been on the same evolutionary path as us.

If we can genetically engineer animals, and considering the size of the universe (and the probability of the existence of intelligent 'aliens') then why cant they also engineer "animals"? (us).
Haha, I understood your point from the start. I just felt like replying in the way I did, because the way you worded it meant that it has to be proven to be true, and you did in this post again, too. I knew what you meant, don't worry - I'm an intelligent being .

But I see what you're saying, that God gives morality. You don't think we're smart enough to come up with our own ideas of morality? That perhaps our consciousness and intelligence evolved over time, thus everyone naturally taking the course of Altruism? Most people help others out if need be, and not all of them believe in God either. And since they don't believe in God, then God doesn't share his morality with them. You know, it's funny though, because all religious people will always find an excuse and justification for anything - because it's all covered in religion.

"God gives morality" - How is that even a working argument? It isn't, because you have not yet even proven that God exists. We have way more evidence for evolution than for God. A lot of religious people use the Bible to actually argue. Which is a totally incorrect way of arguing, because one has yet to prove that the Bible is right about everything. It's really too bad that people are so brainwashed. I feel sorry for people who have dug their great intelligence and consciousness into a deep hole with religion. Sorry, that's just my view. But it is a real sad story, and hopefully one day this will all be ended.

I think Evolution is the closest we have gotten to how it is, but it's possible it's different. God creating everything? Give me a damn break... it's such a load of crap. Only the ones involved in religion can't see it - we atheists and agnostics can smell it from a mile away.