Some front line views of the war against God.

[Mr. Clandestine]

and answersingenesis.org is credible????.

You're telling me it's not? Why? Because it's Christian based? Under your moronic premise, I can just say that every evolutionist source you so ceremoniously quote is equally as discredited, based on its biased views on the subject. But, I wouldn't do that...because I'm perfectly capable of keeping an open mind when it comes to reading evolutionist sources. In fact, I enjoy reading most of the sources, because I know many of them are actually pointing out relevant evidence...while others only make vain attempts to discredit and belittle religion. Maybe you should consider doing the same, because I hate to break it to you...but not all Christians sources are going to blatantly lie just to try and prove a point. And my source wasn't Answersingenesis.org, it was a detailed article by Dr. Donald James Batten that AIG.org decided to include on their site. I read the article a while back, and was initially introduced to their website a few nights ago when I Googled Dr. Batten's name.

Your boring me now...

That's funny, because you've been boring me ever since you insulted me with your atheistic & commonly parroted drivel. Don't forget this, bud...you attacked me for no reason. I have just been defending myself against your petty & widely parroted rhetoric. Had you simply posted your opinion - which is all you have, an opinion - without feeling the need to insult the only Christian in the room, then I would have gladly let you have your say and wouldn't have ended up "boring" you with my own opinions. But you couldn't do that, because your narrow mind won't allow you to accept the fact that not everyone agrees with your snide & hateful rhetorical arguments. At least, that's exactly how they were presented to me.

Set along with many other gods were worshiped for several thousand years. 2000+years

Again, you take things that I actually said...and rearrange it to fit your own interpretation and desperate scrutinization.

As for your impressive little list of Egyptian mythological "gods"...I'm willing to bet that I could make an even longer list of mythological Greek gods, many of whom faded into obscurity in the hearts of the populace after a few hundred years, or less.

How you misinterpreted "many of whom" and get "every single one" out of it, I won't even try to understand. I only wanted to point out that my God is still being worshiped to this day, while Set, Amn, Ra, etc., etc., etc., were long forgotten and replaced by modern day (and mostly monotheistic - including Christian) religions.

Forgive me, but I'm not even going to bother following any more of the links you provide...because I know that arguing any of the points isn't going to do any good. You'll only hear what you want to hear, and completely disregard the rest. And I'm tired of wasting my time on someone who's not even interested in what I have to say. Good day to you, my friend. I pray that you can find some peace and learn not to be so quick to spitefully criticize people with opinions that are so different from your own.

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[Mr. Clandestine]

Mr. Clandestine you still havent responded to my previous post...?

I apologize, but I've been wasting what little time I have to spend online trying to get a point across to someone who despises me because of my religious beliefs. It obviously didn't end very well.

no, in a theory u believe it or you dont.theres no other conditions involved you either believe that man evolved from the great apes or they didnt, end of story (no morals or ethics involved).

I guess what it all boils down to is a simple difference in opinion on the definition of ethics. Philosophically, ethics relates to personal values and standards of conduct that a person holds dear and true to them, regardless of any outside influence, i.e. - religious influence, societal influence, parental, etcetera. Though all of those influences can play a part in molding a persons values.

they made those choices based on what they think not because the theory of evolution told them to, and thats one difference.

Again, I apologize if I made it seem that I was likening choices that a non-religious person makes to choices that an evolutionary thinker makes. If I said this, it wasn't done on purpose. I was simply trying to liken the mindset between what religious and non-religious (or even evolutionists) consider to be a theory, and what makes them believe in it, even if it's not backed up by tangible facts.

another difference is that a theory is not stated as a fact, and if you listen to any religion they're not like ok we think but were not 100% sure that god created the world... they state it as a fact that god did create man and the world.

This is where opinions can vary concerning the definition of a theory. When discussing religion, especially my own, I consider contemplation/speculation as viable as others would consider blind faith. I don't just have blind faith in Christianity, and am not one of the evangelists who will tell you that it's an undisputed fact, and that you're just flat-out wrong if you disagree with me. I understand that it's a belief system; it's just a belief that I happen to have faith in, where many others do not. But again, in many respects, there are also a lot of people who probably refer to me having faith in a theoretical concept. (A coherent group of general propositions.) I just don't consider it theoretical, I actually believe in it. Again, I'm not trying to convince you it's a fact just because I believe in it. I'd rather you make the decision for yourself, just like I did. I wasn't always a Christian, you know.

Sorry again for taking so long to respond to your follow-up post. I still have some reading I'd like to do on transitional fossils, and specifically, Archaeopteryx, so that I can better understand what Delta9 pointed out to me earlier. Again, I'm not ignorant to the views that others have about evolutionist theories...I just need to have the time to read about them and understand them on my own terms, as opposed to having views shoved down my throat by unscrupulous people. I may be a Christian, but that doesn't mean I have a closed mind...unlike quite a few of the Christians that I know are out there. I still strongly believe in the Golden Rule: Treat others the way you'd want to be treated. And I know evolutionists and non-religious people alike don't want to be treated cruelly and skeptically by Christians, which is why I try my best not to do such things.

[Hardcore Newbie]

I have no faith anymore, i do not believe in a God. I am now an Atheistic, Existentialist, Preference Utilitarian.

Dude are you joking?

[mfqr]

Ye, your right. My mistake, shoulda put a + on the end.:thumbsup:

Lol, don't worry about it bro. It's not a big deal.

[Reefer Rogue]

Dude are you joking?

I'm not joking. God is a delusion.

[OnionsOfLove]

maybe someday everyone will come to understand their true potential.

until then the government will continue their brainwashing.

[Hardcore Newbie]

I'm not joking. God is a delusion.

Well, welcome to a world of truth bro

[delusionsofNORMALity]

I'm not joking. God is a delusion.

god i just an oversimplification of reality.:hippy:

[Reefer Rogue]

It's amazing to be free. Embrace existence =]

[mfqr]

I'm not joking. God is a delusion.

Well, well, well. Welcome, friend.