4th Dimensional

[Highness]

Well i was about 14 and it happened to me by accident the first time.I was just so scared so i slept with my mum till i was nearly 18 lol.When i was about 19 or 20 i looked into what happened to me it was so interesting and anyone can do it but it may take a few tries.There are lots of books on astral projection and very detailed instructions on how to do it.I can only do it very late at night when everyone is asleep and there is no noise as you need full concentration and sort of get yourself into a meditated kinda semi-consious state of mind.If you can meditate and have already had an OOBE you will be able to do it easy with not much practice because it has come naturally to you already.If you want me to get u some info on it i will look for some because i will be here all day if i try explaining.
Euphoric apparently it is the exact experience OOBE NDE and astral travel.

that while you are in astral projection it is very possible for one strong enough to possess your body when you are away, granted they say there is a residual link between your body and astral self but i think its unsafe to leave the house without the doors locked. What say you?

[Highness]

time doesn't exist, we made it up so we could know when.

actually wether we made it up for what ever reason Time does exist and it began the moment we figured out how to create matter from the void, this is the beggining of time, before that we all already were but only in the form of energy. And like that time in the beggining of time we somehow figured out how to create matter and so we became what we longed for and again and again for all eternity we will be what we are, till one day through our curiosity and exploration of all we are we will trigger the next phase of our evolution

How you evolve is up to you, will you need to die many times and spend many ages till you understand what you are and progress.. or will you evolve many times in 1 life time never needing to taste the change mortals call death? enjoy!!!

[Highness]

So, humanity starts off in the 3rd dimension. Which is the world as we know it, or rather, as we knew it. The best way I heard of making sense of it is that this is the way that you get things to happen in 3D:

spirit -> thought -> emotion -> effort-> manifestation

So, to contrast it, let's move on to 4D, the 4th dimension, or 4th density. Here the sequence that leads to manifestation looks like this:

spirit -> thought -> emotion -> manifestation


OK, on to 5D, the 5th dimension. What happens there is:

spirit -> thought -> manifestation

We could go on the same way to 6D:

spirit -> manifestation

7D would be that you no longer need the manifestation even. Pure spirit. Or, if you want to look at it materialistically, it could be if you had uploaded yourself to a computer, and you were perfectly happy with simulated experiences, rather than "real" ones. And anything you might ever want is instantly available to you. All at the same time, if you want. You can be anybody you want. So maybe you move on to a different kind of meta-perspective that no longer seeks human kinds of experiences.

http://www.futurehi.net/archives/000086.html

E man I must commend your way of thought, indeed thats what everyone wants to reach and in my own way I know this is where we are going and it will be a perfect world when we get there. You use equations and theories I use Imagination... witch Einstein himself said is the true knowledge. All this we have now your religions your demons and gods, your I mean the blinded masses. All this is what is here because of so many beings misunderstanding of what life shows them. I mean we are all scientists in our own way testing life, testing our thought in our own very private internal labratories. herein lies the key, this world the majority of it for some reason has it ingrained in them that they are so seperate from the universe they have seperated themseleves from there higher selves and created an entitiy they call god or the devil in order to fill the space they have created when they split themselves to understand what it is to fall...we all split ourselves to absorb and learn but most never reassemble and collect what there seperated selves have learned hence they are lost and search for the never ending key in all the wrong places witch is the part of themself they have misplaced. But you have a good understanding I see this is very rare, for me I commend your intelectual level and am honored to meet you. No disrespect to others I value you all your thoguhts and experience. However as with life there are some more elevated than most.

You know what I have found E? that I can talk to someone about such things till im blue in the face wanting, dieing for them to realize they hold themselves back and its true if they are not ready for it they will not accept it or assimilate with this equation. I gave up in that manner people need a more down to earth helping hand, I had to tone down the infromation I was feeding them for they could not withstand the forces it applied to thier reality.

At first i didnt realize it actually causes them pain like trying to make them reach a higher frequency, I would spoon feed them then the knowledge wich is pain to those not ready I would lead them along relating there thought to reasonable applications and then slowly filter my knowledge into there conciousness they would take it in but I could see they were aware this was not there way of thinking and i was greeted with fear and distrust.

Anytime something is real...I mean real like I know you know real like the real deal that thing that takes you to the next level, that train of thought that will change your mind and reality. people fear that, even when they dont understand, they fear the fact that they feel something powerful and real and they instantly reject it.

I became mad and frustrated that they could not open there eyes and leave their childish mindset behind and venture out alone. that what it takes to evolve like the baby leaving the womb, growing and leaving the home to become what it wants to be. The world i see does it physicallly but inside ...there minds and souls are still infants that rely on protection from a fabricated god witch is really thier higherselfs. So I quit trying I realized you can lead the horse to water but cant make it drink.

This is truly an honor to meet one on your intelectual plane, and a very rare occurence in my travels, nice to meet you.

[PureEvil760]

the 4th dimension consists of connecting with nature, I believe shamans call it the "Middle World". There is no limit to dimensional thinking but usally people just get trapped on the basic human level and stay there until death.

http://www.paralumun.com/shamlower.htm
http://www.paralumun.com/shammiddle.htm
http://www.paralumun.com/shamupper.htm

[420mory]

the astral (astral body and mind)

the causal (no astral body but still mind)

(three other planes)

the Brahm (of Brahmand)

Sach Kahnd (pure and only soul, home)


(my explinations about the planes/realms isn't 100% right, but at this time i can't get everything on one line)

in the astral realm alone are allready manymany worlds. through psychedelics you can achieve going to the astral plane, but in your way to pure planes and losing body and mind so in the fine planes only soul stays, astral is just the beginning. there are uncounterable many dimensions, but of more heavy and grove shabd/energy. every chakra has it's own worlds. we need a master (like shaman in rituals) not to get lost in worlds.

[Pennsterdam]

So, if the 3rd dimension is made of the purely physical realm (where we are now) the 4th would be the purely spiritual. right? ok.
I was wondering what other people's thoughts on the 4th dimension are..
its a fascinating subject, i think.

i wonder what existance is like living in the 2nd dimension? or the 11th? crazy concepts

This subject is intriguing! I think that 4th dimension is somewhat time and part of spirit (thought). It is just a higher spiritual realm. When you hit the 5th dimension...your need for religion is gone. A lot of New Agers think that Greys and Reptilians are 4th dimensional entities. Look on Ancient Egyption art and you will see reptilian encarvings. This Universe is inter-dimensional. Mind is spirit. Thats why these aliens have telekenetic abilities and very few humans do because humans are 4th dimensional in a third dimensional environment. time is an illusion. where are now. everything is now. however...we have to evolve always. there will be ways of evolving. there are probably infinite universes.

[beachguy in thongs]

So, if the 3rd dimension is made of the purely physical realm (where we are now) the 4th would be the purely spiritual. right? ok.

I've always thought that the "Fourth Dimension" was better than the "Third...".

About, 33% better.

[MoonStarer420]

Is that a refrance to dark energy?

[beachguy in thongs]

It, usually, is better in the dark.

[Captain Hanks]

funny i was learning about this today,
there have been proven to be 10 dimesions totall, 6 we cant understand