UVB BULBS

[Rusty Trichome]

You have been using it for 10 grow cycles, and dont have any additional insight to add yourself, yet bitch at us to provide you more? ROFLMAO.

I really could care less about your being the OP, as it was your previous post I found to be antagonistic twords all members that did post what they could contribute, but obviously didn't provide the insight you crave. So again I ask...exactly what have you added in bitching about the death of this thread, and the lack of fresh info, that may spark someone's interest in furthering your insight?

I personally have stopped adding to any UV thread. (a request from my wife, who suffers from cancer herself) Not that I don't trust the membership's maturity and diligence that using these spectrums requires, but I'm not all that certain I would like to contribute to another's half-assed approach to growroom safety, which can result in blindness and/or cancers. (not too sure about civil law, but I'd bet there's liability laws to considder as well)

Having said that, good luck with your endeavour.

[sd6515]

Actually I never asked for any info and do not get where you got that idea from, I have all the info I need, I have experimented with different bulbs, the amount of uv, distances from plants, different starting points etc. and did not ever ask for more info, as I have already written an entire report on using uv for increased potency of your final product that I compiled through my experiences and my knowledge of horticulture and uv as I started testing this w/ marijuana as a result of research I completed previously at work and it's just annoying seeing people not only beating a dead horse by repeating the info in the same thread over and over but then basically claiming credit for methods posted previously in the same thread as there own input, if you start at page one like you always should before "contributing" to a thread you would see that everything mentioned was copied from previous posts and the only new info was a way to buy a more expensive bulb that requires you to do just about everything a cautious grower would not do, i.e. paying by card online, signing your name to a waiver, saying you are using it to grow with(regardless of what you say you are growing)etc.. So I mentioned that the info was previously posted so others can go back to when this thread was more active with new info and get the info from the original posters instead of the incomplete bits and pieces of the post being discussed, I really don't get how you could have gotten so offended by that but I guess some people are just a little sensitive, I still think it is funny that somehow you read my post as me wanting more info from someone who won't even talk about uv and someone who copied what I and others wrote, I do not crave any insight lol I really could not be happier with my continued success that I have been able to repeat every single grow.

As to liability laws, there are no laws that would allow any civil action against anyone in this situation in particular as the law specifically does not allow any civil action to be taken against someone when what they are doing is illegal, unclean hands, you can not have civil liability for someone being hurt b/c they used info you posted on a forum on how to complete or improve an illegal act, and beyond that the liability laws for posting on forums are pretty much nonexistent and the precedents set by previous rulings would suggest that there would be zero civil liability, of course then again you still have people who have things like "everything I post is a joke and not true" etc. in there signature and they actually think that would cover them in some way and that is just hilarious.

Anyways my whole point was to get people to go back to the original information and quit repeating the exact same things over and over if anyone has more info of course everyone would benefit from it, but there is no benefit to repeated info or suggesting people go out and by bulbs they have to sign there name to. And there certainly is no benefit to this back and forth b/c you were somehow offended by me mentioning this, this is exactly why I stopped checking cannabis.com for so long, too many sensitive people who are sensitive to the wrong things, instead of being sensitive to people taking credit for info others have already contributed or the fact that someone is suggesting people go out and sign there name and sign waivers when purchasing growing equipment.

Good luck with your grows and next time you get so easily offended by someone who isn't even addressing you, smoke some of your product and relax before ruining a thread with back and forth claiming the person who started the thread and posted nearly all the info that was claimed by another as not contributing to there thread.

[frostymcfailure]

hey now guys dont clown this up now, keep it on track!:thumbsup:

How dangerous is this UVB & how many watts(?) for most efficient thc production when supplemented with HPS to reproduce the blazing suns of the equator? Landrace equatorial sativa's are quiet special no doubt(columbians, panamas, thai's, etc.) could it really be the UVB responsible for there behavior? Posters who've "preformed tests/experiments" what are your results on what strains & you better have a variable and efficient Hydro & c02 skillz.

[sd6515]

Unfortunately I can not comment much on strains b/c I first purchased a bag of indoor mix seeds and all the seeds I now grow with are from plants from that original bag I bought a few years back.

UV-B can be very dangerous to your health and it can be a silent danger b/c it is not as if you open the door and check out your plants and you feel it, you can hardly even tell it is on, but that is one of the dangers of it, UV-B can be used safely as long as it is set up so that you and the uv-b are never on in the room together, it is just something that is not worth the risks of how much is ok it is better to assume none is ok.

I have always used two of the reptile uv-b I use the 20w cfl 10% I believe it is, I purchased them from petco for like $15 a piece and I have them on for like 4-6hrs starting just before flowering and slowly increasing the time they are on so that I do not run the risk of frying the plants with too much uv. Research that I have found online, I found a great 25min video that I can not find anymore, does suggest that strains that would normally grow closer to the equator do tolerate the uv better and have a higher increase in trichs when compared to the same strain without uv-b. While I do think the uv helps those strains I don't believe this has as much to do with it as genetics as one would assume that even the better reaction to uv has to do with the genetics on the strain, however the genetics can also be affected by the region it is native to so it may also be a chicken or the egg type thing as well.

As to the hydro and co2 I always grow in soil, I just prefer it, and I have not ever used co2 in my grows and I have had great results with the uv-b and that is one of the reasons I like it so much. I actually started using uv-b before I completely mastered all of my techniques and I saw "better" bud from the first grow I used it on, which is one of the reason I really started to believe in the uvb.

Hope this helps answer your questions and thanks for getting the thread back on track.

[Dutch Pimp]

My Ceramic Metal Halide Bulb puts out enough UV rays to burn my knuckles on the back of my hand...and that's just from rotating the pots...couple of minutes each day...beware....:smokin:...wear your shades, too!

[the image reaper]

ditto on the safety concerns ... I'm pretty blind in my right eye now, happened suddenly, over only a few months ... I think it's just a cataract, which can be fixed, thank God, but I won't know till the eye doctor checks it out ... am curious if has anything to do with my lamps :wtf:

[oldmac]

Hey Dutch,

Recently while looking for a CMH bulb, one of the mfgs (don't remeber which site) was stating they had "new and improved" glass envelope that cut down the amount of radiated UV.

How is that an improvement?

[Dutch Pimp]

Hey Dutch,

Recently while looking for a CMH bulb, one of the mfgs (don't remeber which site) was stating they had "new and improved" glass envelope that cut down the amount of radiated UV.

How is that an improvement?

Everything that I know about CMH bulbs is in here...(and the ICMag link included)...you should be able to read it all...in two or three days......
http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-li...-ballasts.html

[oldmac]

What makes you think I haven't already read it.....
....and it only took me a week. lol
Actually it was you that got me interested in them, you seem to have away about Pimpin' good stuff.

[Dutch Pimp]

I'm not looking to change anybody's mind...I just want them to see the light...