Bongs Confirmed Counter-productive by NORML

[Nailhead]

If you read the study it seems to make sense, I'm not going to copy and paste it so you'll just have to go click on the link and read it yourself, but it basically just proves how inefficient smoking cannabis is, so we should all learn to eat it

It also sounds like when this test was done, vaporizers weren't as popular as they are now. It would be interesting to test a popular vaporizer, such as the volcano, and see how it fares.

But I think the big reason people say they get higher from a bong than from a pipe is because you take harder and deeper hits with a bong than you do from a pipe. Hit too hard from a pipe and you'll suck down some ash, but a bong, hit as hard as you want and fill every inch of your lungs with some nice cool smoke. That, I think, is why people believe they are getting higher from a bong. I have noticed that I use considerably more bud with a bong than I do with my pipe, so I gotta say this study doesn't sound too far off base.

[JohnnyII]

although it is kinda strange, expensive, and inconvenient, i may have to start vaping. and quit smoking.

granny, how damaged were your lungs after 40 years? can you post some details of your switch to vaping? thnx!

edit: i am still pissed that i just bought that new bong.

Dude you can get a sick ass convection hands-free vape for $70-90. You don't need to blow 100s to get a very effective vape.

[imitator]

THC is not water soluable. Therefore, how does the THC get lost in the water? I mean if you are putting some milk or booze in your bong, yeah, I suppose so...

Thats why drinking bong water doesnt do much but make you sick and look like an ass.

There have been plenty of studies in the history of science that have been fundamental flawed or just plain wrong. Just because its from NORML doesnt mean they are immune to being wrong.

[Coelho]

THC is not water soluable. Therefore, how does the THC get lost in the water? I mean if you are putting some milk or booze in your bong, yeah, I suppose so...

The THC is actually not soluble in water, but it doesnt matter so much. If the water can cool down the smoke until it be at a temperature lower than THC boiling point, it will condensate.

This process happens mostly at the surface of the smoke bubbles when they pass through the water, and thats why some of THC reaches our lungs... because even if the surface of the smoke bubbles passing through the water lose its THC, the middle of the bubbles are hot enough for allowing the THC to be gaseous. When the bubbles reach the surface of the water and collapse, the THC of its middle is released, and we smoke it.

[greatish.ten]

Honestly, on the level;

If NORML says I shouldn't be enjoying my bong, NORML can go screw themselves.

[melodious fellow]

This study, is like someone telling me that the moon is not really the moon after centuries of calling it the moon. Infact, it is the moom, fuck that, it makes little difference, it's the moon.

yea, kinda like those idiots that told us the earth isn't the center of the universe and it isn't flat, either.... after centuries of believing so... wtf were they thinking.. blasphemy! :wtf:

[bumclot]

They also said in the study that smoking stronger bud reduces the intake of all the bad fumes. In the NORML study they're using some weak shit, 2.3% thc, might as well be smoking hay! Considering that most people here are smoking a lot better than NIDA's shwag, it seems that people are getting a lot less of the toxic fumes.

[Reefer Rogue]

yea, kinda like those idiots that told us the earth isn't the center of the universe and it isn't flat, either.... after centuries of believing so... wtf were they thinking.. blasphemy! :wtf:

No, those comparisons don't work because they are HUGE mistakes. My point was that if the moon was actually the 'moom' one letter change and pretty much the same phonology (sound) it wouldn't make a difference. I would still call the moon, the moon. As i will still smoke my bong and get high. Experiance gains knowledge, forget NORML'S attempted rationalism.

[bumclot]

...As i will still smoke my bong and get high. Experiance gains knowledge, forget NORML'S attempted rationalism.

Honestly, on the level;

If NORML says I shouldn't be enjoying my bong, NORML can go screw themselves.

I don't think NORML's intent was to outlaw the bong or get people to stop using them. The intent was to see what the healthiest mode of smoking is. They uncovered some surprising information and are now just trying to make people aware.

[Reefer Rogue]

The healthiest way to consume cannabis is by vaping it or eating it. I believe a bong is healthier then a joint/blunt/pipe and shall continue to do so. Good day and have a high one.