PLEASE HELP!! Probation/Testing Coming Up!

[RunningScared]

Hello Everyone,

I am directing this at FakeBoobsRule, as he seems to be the savant about testing, etc on this site (I've done alot of research before posting). But any and ALL responses, and advice is more than welcome and appreciated. Here is my case:

I'm 29 yrs old, 165 lbs, 5-10, about 19%BF, and up until 2 weeks ago, I used to smoke 2-3x daily for a couple years, but as of 2 weeks ago, I've quit completely, and forever, as I may have drug tests coming up in the future, for a possible PROBATION. When I was smoking over the past couple of years or so, it was mostly schwag, up until about 5 months ago, then mids till 2 weeks ago, and for the last two weeks, I've been 100% clean.

I used to lift regularly, but recently I've been neglecting it, and I have a decent metabolism. As of 3 days ago, I've been doing 3 miles cardio on the eliptical and 3 miles cardio on the bike (45-50 mins total), as well as abs, and light lifting. I also will be using caffeine to up my metabolism before each workout, as well as using creatine loading doses every day for some time.

First, and most importantly, what kind of time frame am I looking at to get the THC out of my system? I've read everything from 12-90 days. And w/ my history of smoking, I'm worried that it may be closer to 90 days. I may have to test in a couple weeks, but I'm not sure yet (pending on the results of a court case below).

I have no previous charges regarding drugs whatsoever (except an MIP for alcohol when I was like 20, and I'm 29 now). My pre-prelim conference is for Wednesday (5 days from now), and it's not for anything drug-related, but it is a felony charge. Will I be asked to test in court itself, if I get a probation? Or will I wait till I meet up with a probation officer to do that? I don't know if one has been assigned, but since there has been no decision on my case yet (in MICHIGAN), I'm guessing not.

I have ordered testing strips as well as specimen validity strips which test for Creatinine, Nitrites, Glutaraldehyde, Oxidants, pH, Specific Gravity.

Furthermore, I have already gotten a bottle of ROLAIDS (not Tums), Gallons of Gatorade, Aspirin, B-100 slow release B vitamins (I will crush them up and take to counteract the slow release....I've tried this a couple days ago, and my urine turned a nice yellow). I drink about a gallon of water normally, daily, so I my urine is usually clear, but the B-Vit-100 did turn it yellow. I plan on using N2's dilution method, but I've seen a few threads which suggest adding salt, and adding Rolaids to the mix.

If anyone can answer my questions, and give me any advice at all (especially FakeBoobsRule), I would MUCH appreciate it. I'm freaking out here, and if I do get a probation, I don't want to fuck myself over with the first test. Please help!!!

RS

RunningScared Reviewed by RunningScared on 10-12-2007. PLEASE HELP!! Probation/Testing Coming Up! Hello Everyone, I am directing this at FakeBoobsRule, as he seems to be the savant about testing, etc on this site (I've done alot of research before posting). But any and ALL responses, and advice is more than welcome and appreciated. Here is my case: I'm 29 yrs old, 165 lbs, 5-10, about 19%BF, and up until 2 weeks ago, I used to smoke 2-3x daily for a couple years, but as of 2 weeks ago, I've quit completely, and forever, as I may have drug tests coming up in the future, for a Rating: 5

[RunningScared]

ALSO.......forgot to ask this above, but in adding salt and Rolaids to the dilution mix, what is a good quantity/time schedule of doing that. N2's thread doesn't mention specifics about these. Please help! Thanks.

RS

[FakeBoobsRule]

I have seen a couple of people take near 90 days to pass a test. Although possible it is rare. It is not as rare though for people to take 30-60 days to get clean. With your body type and aerobic activities, you stand a good chance of passing after 30 days or less maybe. Anything is possible.

If this is your pre prelim it doesn't sound like a deal is going to be worked out on that day. If it is you may be subject to report to probation and test right away but that really isn't the norm. It seems most people who work out deals that go on probation have a few days before their first test once the deal is entered in court. Good to stop now though.

If you want to add salt to the sports drink I think most people recommend about 1 tablespoonful per quart. You may want to try a little less at first. For the Tums/Rolaids you can take about 4 every hour starting 2-3 hours before the test.

[sd6515]

When I was on probation I failed the first test in NY with a total bitch of a probation officer and it probably made her test me more often but at least in ny you don't get violated for failing the first because of the fact that it could and most likely is from before probation started.
And btw as a lifter and trainer myself I thought I should mention that creatine is not a good thing to take it has many negative effects that basically counteract the object of working out. Two major things it does is cause weight gain mainly in you stomach in the form of a gut and another is that its' actual claims to muscle gain/growth is actually caused from water weight almost like swelling of the muscle and does not translated into more power and vanishes quickly after creatine use is stop. Amino acids, NOS from vitamin world and test stack from there as well with a good shake like muscle milk is a much better combination for truly great gains in power and size while supplying the body with the right nutrients to prevent muscle damage.

[RunningScared]

Thank you SO MUCH for your always helpful responses, FBR. I am not touching the green ever again, so that won't be an issue for me. But I also wanted to ask you this, asides from the Rolaids (I'm guessing these are for pH and Ca concentrations) and salt advice you gave me, should I stick EXACTLY to N2's dilution schedule?

That is, starting at 12 hrs before w/ aspirins, and stopping them at 4 hrs? I've also read elsewhere that you want to take the aspirin until like an hour before. Can you please clarify this?

Also, won't the aspirin show up on the adulteration test as having knocked out the EMIT, or whatever? I'm worried about that, too, and is the reasons I've ordered the adulteration strips. Please let me know about this.

@ sd6515

I'm using the creatine mainly to make sure my system is holding enough creatine, thus trying to maintain high levels of creatinine metabolite. So this way, when I'm tested, it won't come up as dilute from checking the creatinine levels. I know this is only needed 3-4 days before the test, but I want to start now, and MAKE SURE i keep a high level constantly. Is this a bad idea? Please let me know. I'm not really trying to make muscle gains, but more fat loss right now to clear the thc metabolites from my fatty tissues.

Thank you both very much, and any further info is truly appreciated!

[sd6515]

It is good for creatinine levels for the test but depending on how your body reacts to elevated creatine levels it can be counter productive to weight loss

[dylan]

just buy a home drug test from wallgreens, or simmilar store, to test yourself. They are about the same tests they give for probation. I was in your shoes about 2 years ago. I am 6'1":170lbs:25yo, and I smoked ALOT for about 4-5 years before I quit. I tested clean in about 3 weeks with lots of running and drinking water.

[aries ormazd]

Go to your local smoke shop and bring about $40 and get yourself and bottle of "Instant Clear". Clears your system, free of THC :thumbsup: (Sorry if anyone already recomended this)

I dont know if they can tell that you drank somthing to make you clean, but I know that it worked when my parents were all anal back in the day. Or there are these things called "Wissonators" or somthing like that... Sorry if none of this is helpful. Good luck man!

[FakeBoobsRule]

Go to your local smoke shop and bring about $40 and get yourself and bottle of "Instant Clear". Clears your system, free of THC :thumbsup: (Sorry if anyone already recomended this)

I dont know if they can tell that you drank somthing to make you clean, but I know that it worked when my parents were all anal back in the day. Or there are these things called "Wissonators" or somthing like that... Sorry if none of this is helpful. Good luck man!

It's Whizzinator and those drinks are a rip off. They are hit or miss and most work by dilution, which you can do for $5-10 instead of $40. Good try but there is a lot more to drug testing than you probably realize.

Thank you SO MUCH for your always helpful responses, FBR. I am not touching the green ever again, so that won't be an issue for me. But I also wanted to ask you this, asides from the Rolaids (I'm guessing these are for pH and Ca concentrations) and salt advice you gave me, should I stick EXACTLY to N2's dilution schedule?

That is, starting at 12 hrs before w/ aspirins, and stopping them at 4 hrs? I've also read elsewhere that you want to take the aspirin until like an hour before. Can you please clarify this?

Also, won't the aspirin show up on the adulteration test as having knocked out the EMIT, or whatever? I'm worried about that, too, and is the reasons I've ordered the adulteration strips. Please let me know about this.

The rolaids/tums are to help with specific gravity. Aspirin will not show up as an adulterant. You are taking it by mouth not adding it to the piss, it isn't illegal, and they don't look for aspirin. If you are referring to S2's aspirin and dilution method, I think he recommends taking the aspirin at least 4 hours before the test no more than 12 and you can repeat again shortly before the test, like 1-2 hours before it. I don't think he means stop taking them at the 4 hour mark.

[RunningScared]

Ok, thanks for your responses guys, I'm gonna take a test either tonight (post-workout) or tomorrow morning w/ first void, and test it, and see how that goes.

Also, @FBR, do you suggest I do what S2 says, and take the aspirins up to an hour before, or what N2 says, and take them up UNTIL 4 hrs before?

Step 1. 4-12 hours before the test take 4 aspirin (not Tylenol or Advil). This step may be repeated every 4-6 hours up until 4 hours before the test.
Step 2. 3-4 hours before your test, start by drinking 2, 8oz. glasses of water. Water can be substituted for with Cranberry or fruit juice, teas or even soft drinks. Then drink another 8oz. every 15 minutes for the next hour for a total of 6 glasses of water (48oz).
Step 3. In about 1 - 2 hours (depending on your system) you should be voiding â??clearâ?? urine about every 15 - 20 minutes. Continue to drink 3-4 oz. more water to replace what you've voided every 20-30 minutes.
Step 4. 1-2 hours before the test, take vitamin B2 or B complex (about 10 times the daily recommended dosage). If the vitamins are time release, crush them before taking. You may also take vitamin B with each glass of water, 2 times the daily dosage, if you find it easier.

Also the other bold part above, I should substitute 2 quarts of gatorade with 2 tablespoons of salt, right? And drink that mixture every time it asks for water, correct? Thus, I'd be diluting, replacing, and everything with the gatorade-salt concoction? Sorry for all the questions, but all the differing info, and vagueness make it a bit difficult to figure out.

@Dylan, thanks for your post, it makes me feel a bit better to know someone has gone through this w/ my stats before.

Again, any and all help is much appreciated.