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Sorry, I re-read my last post and I can see how it looks like I was being confrontational, which wasn't my intention.
It's fine, I didn't think you were being too confrontational anyway.

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That's the thing, just because they aren't easily swayed, just because they are concrete in their beliefs, that doesn't mean they're right.
Exactly. I believe that I am right in my beliefs...but realize that I could be wrong at the same time.

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The Bible itself makes no distinction on which stories are made up and which ones are real. I just keep asking question as to where they draw the distinction and why? Basically getting them to admit that they could be wrong about where they're drawing the line, showing them where I've drawn the line (all fake). While I don't get everyone to change, I've seen quite a few people go on by saying that while what they belief might not be rational, they still do. In this case, you are stuck in the debate, because who can debate irrationality? no one.
That was my original point. You can't debate irrationality. Also, I think different people will draw that line in completely different places. Xtians tend to debate xtians just as much if not more than they debate atheists. I simply draw the line at the beginning. I feel that if you have to make a distinction between which parts are real and which parts are fake based simply on what you decide, then the whole thing is probably worthless.