Interesting Videos Involving Proving Creationism

[Ghengis Chron]

Interesting video. The guy seems rather condescending of those who are "humanists."

This is what I get from this guy....
"The bible is right, and nothing else is"

[Hardcore Newbie]

Ic Ic.... well i kinda just saw my chance to thro my opinion out there so i took advantage.

and no i am not an atheist as u are implying.. I am very spiritual, and i practice my religion in evry aspect of my life... yes i do not belive any sort of god, but i dont think i fall in to the catogory of an atheist. what do u think? hardcore newbi

ps i know i cant spell my bad... i am primitive

I'm just wondering what you practice if you don't believe in god.

[Reefer Rogue]

I enjoyed watching the video.

[Fallen_Icarus]

Why not? - If you accept we evolved (your above quote demonstrates that) then I'm not sure you know what you are actually talking about.

I think I was a bit too blunt with my statement, but how you percieved it is how you responded to it, so I dont blame you.

Let me elaborate, Evolution is called a theory because that is exactly what it is, it never called "evolution fact", because there are numerous question marks as to how we came about regarding evolution and how to prove evolution over such a long time scale.

HOWEVER, we can often see at small levels evolution taking place in the short term, such as animals adapting to their environment (this does not erase the question mark about our existence however) and evolving and improving into a higher formed animal which is more fit fore survival.

There have probably been many mutations in nature that simply were not fit for survival and do not exist today.

The question mark still remains on exactly how we got here, you cannot just see small animals evolving and adapting to their environment and apply that to your 4 billion year theory of evolution (a lot can happen in 4 billion years and there is a lot to prove such as how you turn a rock into a living organism) especially when you consider the fact that we have been on this planet for about 2% of its time of existence lol.

Scientists DONT hide behind anything - that's sort of the whole point.

Learn more biology - this is getting old.

Evolutionists do hide behind the time factor of 4 billion years.

How else do you explain how we turn from rocks into humans?

You say it took a very long time lol.

[wisco61]

I think I was a bit too blunt with my statement, but how you percieved it is how you responded to it, so I dont blame you.

Let me elaborate, Evolution is called a theory because that is exactly what it is, it never called "evolution fact", because there are numerous question marks as to how we came about regarding evolution and how to prove evolution over such a long time scale.

When you don't even understand the definition of a theory as it relates to science, you kind of lose all credibility. You are thinking of a hypothesis in relation to many questions being unanswered. In the sciences, a theory is a particular framework used to describe and understand the world around us. Such a framework is only recognized as a theory after a firm empirical basis for its body of knowledge has been established. This is done through such things as extensive and long-term experimentation and observation. Until you take two seconds to even understand one of the most basic terms in science, you may want to hold off on judging the merits of science.

HOWEVER, we can often see at small levels evolution taking place in the short term, such as animals adapting to their environment (this does not erase the question mark about our existence however) and evolving and improving into a higher formed animal which is more fit fore survival.

There have probably been many mutations in nature that simply were not fit for survival and do not exist today.

Not exactly sure what you are trying to say there but ok.

The question mark still remains on exactly how we got here, you cannot just see small animals evolving and adapting to their environment and apply that to your 4 billion year theory of evolution (a lot can happen in 4 billion years and there is a lot to prove such as how you turn a rock into a living organism) especially when you consider the fact that we have been on this planet for about 2% of its time of existence lol.

Yes because we think we evolved from rocks.... /facepalm

Evolutionists do hide behind the time factor of 4 billion years.

How else do you explain how we turn from rocks into humans?

You say it took a very long time lol.

Wow, do you actually believe what you are saying. You have no grasp of the science at all yet you are sure it is wrong. I've at least read the bible and a lot of people who believe in evolution were raised religious.

[Fallen_Icarus]

You are thinking of a hypothesis in relation to many questions being unanswered

But you fail to understand that if the hypothesis also has a great deal of unanswerable questions along with its opposing theory then the opposing theory is no more fruitless than the hypothesis.

In the sciences, a theory is a particular framework used to describe and understand the world around us.

A theory is also not fact, which makes creationism as much a valid hypothetical school of thought as evolution. Im not saying evolution is not correct, once it is established as a theory science is used to increase the probability of it being true through the use of discovery and whatever means you wish to use to prove that we evolved from rocks.

I doubt you can conduct an experimentation to prove we evolved from rocks, let alone observe it happening. But I dont know, have you got 4 billion years of time to spare?

A theory is a hypothesis and what is the definition of a hypothesis?

:

a message expressing an opinion based on incomplete evidence

The meaning of the word opinion?

:

a personal belief or judgment that is not founded on proof or certainty;

And this does not by any means say that creationism is true or even that evolution is not true.

I rest my case:thumbsup:

This is done through such things as extensive and long-term experimentation and observation.

How do you go about using observation and experimentation as a means to prove that man evolved from rocks over a 4 billion year period?

Have you ever seen an ape evolve into a man?

Dont you think scientists would actualy laugh at your means as an attempt to "prove" without a shadow of a doubt that evolution is true?

Now you have lost credibility, nice try, I always enjoy seeing people joining in and learning from their mistakes

:thumbsup:

Until you take two seconds to even understand one of the most basic terms in science, you may want to hold off on judging the merits of science.

I by no means look down on science and discredit it, I doubt someone who actually studies the subject for a living would go about doing this lol.

Science is not about evolution, science is about learning, it is a skill to produce solutions which by no means should discredit the creationists theory OR the evolutionists theory.

I think you should understand that my message simply entails that due to the lack of evidence proving the evolution THEORY it makes it on parr with creationism which also is a theory based upon no fact or evidence.

Thats all im saying.

:thumbsup:

Not exactly sure what you are trying to say there but ok.

Well if you think about it, its simple, clearly we can look at evolution on a short term basis and show how animals can form into more adapted beings and conclude that their environment be the basis upon the characteristics they ascertain.

But try doing using this concept to prove that we evolved from rocks over 4 billion years.

And this brings me back to my original point, one may ask this question to an evolutionist and he/she may say:

"well it did take a long time" - hiding behind the time factor.

Yes because we think we evolved from rocks.... /facepalm

Who is "we"? Do you represent yourself and your own theories of coming to existence or are we talking about Darwinist evolution?

Because if we are talking of the latter then if you had any knowledge on the subject of evolution you would find that we did evolve from rocks and water according to the theory evolution.

But the former doesnâ??t bother me, you may think we were planted here by a race of hybrid horse monkeys.

Do some research, I have studied with evolutionists and I have asked many times; is this what you think? and they always reply "yes, this is the universal concept of evolution".

Now we just need to prove it.

Wow, do you actually believe what you are saying. You have no grasp of the science at all yet you are sure it is wrong. I've at least read the bible and a lot of people who believe in evolution were raised religious.

WOW slow down, I have not once said evolution is not true, how can I say this when there is no evidence to prove so?

You should think before you speak because I dont like people putting words in my mouth.

It is true evolutionists have to hide behind the 4 billion year period, that by no means makes evolution not true, it just emphasizes the fact that there is a huge flaw or gap (possibly waiting to be filled) in evolution, which CLEARLY puts evolutionists whom run down creationism as a stupid idea lacking evidence in a complete utter paradox.

And incase you dont understand the meaning of paradox here it is:

A paradox is an apparently true statement or group of statements that leads to a contradiction or a situation which defies intuition.

Its also an English Indie rock band.

[Charles U Farley]

Fallen_Icarus

Evolution cannot be proved in this way, there are institutions offering millions to someone who can prove the THEORY of evolution.

But scientists love to hide behind the 4 billion years of time factor.

Let me elaborate, Evolution is called a theory because that is exactly what it is, it never called "evolution fact", because there are numerous question marks as to how we came about regarding evolution and how to prove evolution over such a long time scale.

A theory is also not fact, which makes creationism as much a valid hypothetical school of thought as evolution. Im not saying evolution is not correct, once it is established as a theory science is used to increase the probability of it being true through the use of discovery and whatever means you wish to use to prove that we evolved from rocks.

Ok,I usually try to stay out of these debates because they seem pointless to me.No one is ever going to convince "creationist" to have an open mind and look at the evidence.FI, you are right,evolution is just a theory,a theory based on the fossil and geological records.As such Ill present my case with this evidence to support my theory and we can talk about derived v.primitive traits,natural selection,brain size and what are the evolutionary advantages to bi-pedalism. Ill present all of my evidence have you shoot it down and tell me why its wrong or wont work.That is fine,its healthy to be critical (I wish more people are when they are watching the network news)and to have a lively debate.But the problem is this debate is all one sided and has been since forever.I have one simple question after I presented my evidence of how we got here,how the Earth was formed and the processes involved...my simple is question is this,I have presented my evidence for my "theory",where is your evidence???Where is your scientific and empirical evidence for creationism???Dont treat me like a child or an idiot and say "look around you,there is my evidence".Unfortunately that is what it often boils down to in these debates.I would suggest that you take a Geology 101 course and couple of physical Anthropology courses.That will lay out the evidence for the "theory" of evolution.

Im not trying to be mean or rude,I think good healthy debate is great and I welcome it,but these arguments tend to be pretty circular in nature...dont you think?Have a great all and be safe.

[Delta9 UK]

^^Word

I think this guy is probably the last Creationist that was banned - re-registering again for more lolz.

Creationists like to waste your time - remember that.

This is a war as far as I'm concerned and Creationists are trying damn hard to convince people that what they spout is science and not bullshit.

Not enough people know enough biology (like Fallen Icarus) to argue and Creationists know this, if they struggle then back to circular logic.

Familiar posting style - commenting almost everything said with a rebuke.... reminds me of Nature Boy :wtf:

[Delta9 UK]

OK Let's play.

You say Creationism is on a par with Evolution and that they are competing theories.

If that's the case you should easily be able to define Creationism and how your theory works.

Let's start (ignoring how silly it is) by working out if you beleive in an old-world or a new-world 'theory' of creationism. Oh, and why. I would like evidence to support why your theory is the best one.

[Delta9 UK]

Besides you are talking about Abiogenesis - the truth or falsity of any theory of abiogenesis wouldn't affect evolution in the least, its apples and oranges and I think you are twisting the logic here - or just don't understand the science.