The shamanistic aspects of marijuana

[Coelho]

anyone know who the guy that has been called like, the Timothy Leary of the new age or something, forget his name, writes about his experiences staying with different south American tribes and stuff, just smoked a bowl of kif and my mind is blank lol.. Anyways real interesting read if your into that type of stuff

Man... i think i know who you mean... he drank Ayahuasca (cerimonial drink used by indians from amazonia here in Brasil) if im not mistaken... if you remember his name, please tell me! I did read about him long ago, but never could read that again...

[TryptamineScape]

shit...I was just talking to my friend about that cause he read some stuff by that guy...and if you hadn't brought it up I'd still know...dammit...I'll ask him real quick...

[cadmiumblimp]

Terrence McKenna?

[mfqr]

Man... i think i know who you mean... he drank Ayahuasca (cerimonial drink used by indians from amazonia here in Brasil) if im not mistaken... if you remember his name, please tell me! I did read about him long ago, but never could read that again...

Terrence McKenna. He did a lot of psychedelics, but his favorite was DMT (used in Ayahuasca).

[Coelho]

Oh i know who is Terrence McKenna... but unfortunately he is not the one i thought he was... i meant a scientist (physicist i think) who also drank ayahuasca, had a trippy trip (of course) and then described his experience in a book called "the flight of the ???" (condor? eagle? its some bird)... Reading his experience was one of the things that did make me interested in psychedelics... what brought me to weed, of course... and thats why im here. So, it would be nice to find, again, that piece of my long way...
Anyway, thanks for the help! :thumbsup:

[Dream of the iris]

Marijuana gave me a glimpse into Enlightenment(yes, actual enlightenment as described in the Upinshads and the Bhagavad Gita), but I don't recommend people to meditate while high unless they know what they are doing. It can be dangerous.

[olderandwiser?]

when I smoke that in the end, we are all pretty much doing the same thing - we all know there is a connection with nature and our creator, and we "worship" or "meditate" for the same outcome. And being introspective is knowing yourself better. Unfortunately, many do not recognize what they see within themselves. People are too busy being greedy and self-centered. :rasta:

pass it this way

[Coelho]

Marijuana gave me a glimpse into Enlightenment(yes, actual enlightenment as described in the Upinshads and the Bhagavad Gita), but I don't recommend people to meditate while high unless they know what they are doing. It can be dangerous.

Man... i think i had some glimpses into enlightenment also, with weed+(one unmentionable substance)... How it was for you?
Also... i usually and frequently meditate while stoned... why do you say it can be dangerous? What dangers i may be risking myself without even know it?

[dannyboy420]

Oh dear.

I believe marijuana itself has shamanistic aspects to it. Psychedelic drug use is common in many religions of the world, past and present.

Depending on the type of weed, and my state of mind, I feel very in tune with the harmonic vibrations of people and the world when I smoke.

You know, our entire nervous system is run on electricity, right? The brain sends an electrical pulse down a nerve to a muscle, and the muscle moves. Our brains are electric. Well, with every electrical current, and electromagnetic field is developed instantly.

These fields change with the strength and frequency of the current.

Sound is vibration. Sound can be converted into analog electrical waves, which can be converted into digital electrical waves, which can be converted into many different types of waves along the electromagnetic spectrum then transmitted and received and converted back into sound we can hear.

Molecules vibrate at specific frequencies depending upon the type of matter.

There are harmonic frequencies in electrical waves. These are smaller waves generated by the initial wave. In music, harmonic notes are ones that go with the melody, complementing it, but the notes are completely different.

I believe "putting out good vibes" and feeling good vibes are literally doing just that.

I constantly find people that I resonate well with.

I play the didjeridoo. Every didjeridoo has a specific range of frequencies that will make that individual didj resonate.

I believe marijuana can be used as a spiritual meditative medium, and I do not think it is "cheating" to do that.

Marijuana has been used in many cultures' religions, and has been known in more than one as "The Liberator."

I notice when I am high, it gives me a unique perspective on things. It helps me think of different ways to solve problems in my life. It's a revolutionary drug.

Cannabis is so versatile, that many do not explore the shamanistic elements. Some people smoke just to get high. Some people smoke to relieve emotional or physical pain. Some smoke as a spiritual ritual. I do it for all these reasons.

[Dream of the iris]

Man... i think i had some glimpses into enlightenment also, with weed+(one unmentionable substance)... How it was for you?
Also... i usually and frequently meditate while stoned... why do you say it can be dangerous? What dangers i may be risking myself without even know it?

If you think you were enlightened, you weren't.

This is an excerpt from the experience I had.

I was feeling content and peaceful at this point. After the shower I was drying myself off when all of a sudden the bathroom got brighter. It was as if I â??woke upâ?�, more like I was â??shockedâ?� awake. It just sort of happened. I felt no desire for anything. My mind was split in two. â??Iâ?� was witnessing my ego trying to make sense of what was happening. It was a loss of self or should I say I truly found my Self. Pure bliss flooded my body. I was very joyful. Immediately I thought of the Buddha and of what happened to him when he reached Enlightenment. The demon of ego and desire sent his beautiful daughters to tempt the Buddha (in his mind), but he merely gazed upon them, feeling no desire for them, merely witnessing their presence. Thatâ??s how I felt that night. I was merely the witness. I felt no desire for sleep, for food, sex, anything like that. All my desires were fulfilled. I was content with just being.


The dangers exist in the rising of Kundalini without knowing how to handle it. And the experience I had, called a Satori, can be dangerous to certain people. I like to think of it as similar to an acid trip, certain people just can't handle acid, so without proper training (which I didn't have, but I guess I was able to handle it ) it can be scary. It's ego loss, so it can be scary, but it's a beautiful experience. I don't mean to scare you into not meditating while stoned, it's just that when you meditate your channeling energies and reaching higher states of consciousness. Weed amplifies this and, for me at least, it ended up taking me to extremely high states of consciousness. That's why I don't meditate stoned anymore. It makes me advance too fast and the slow approach is much better and safer. Everyone is different though and some people enjoy meditating stoned, but I find it better to reach those states naturally and safely. I'd only meditate stoned again if I was in the presence of an experienced Guru.

For me, weed was a way to "find myself" to look deep within and see myself for the first time as I truly was. And I did and I found things out about me. That's the first step towards enlightenment. Searching within. Weed is a very powerful tool to do this with and once you find yourself, once you see yourself as you truly are, then the tool becomes useless.