Quote Originally Posted by omar_jj
there has to be a creator... imagen walking in the forrest with a friend and seing a building. Now your friend tells you that the building was created by itself, by chance. it took the building millions of years to reach its final shape. would you believe that? fuck NO you wouldnt. the same goes for a living cell, which is a million times more complex then a building. you think the cell was chance or designed by a creator?

This is an old argument, made by people who don't understand natural processes at all. Humans, life, everything in the universe, were not created by shere 1-in-a-trillion luck. Nor does a building have a genetic code subject to natural selection and self-replication, as happens with genetic material.

And how is it logical to say this "creator", a being more intelligent and powerful than anything we have ever seen, could appear all by itself? God would have to be a trillion times more complex than humans, yet we say the complex humans couldn't possibly have happened without a creator. The creator himself though.... oh sure, he just showed up by himself.