Problem cloningn with a aerocloner, need assistance.

[Grow_4_us]

I recently got a aeroclonr, it's a 3.5 gallon bucket with four jet sprayers and 8 (eight) sights for clones.I placed three clones in it and after day two one fell over at the base where it is inserted into the inert.It seemed as if the inner part of the stem washed out from where the nodes that got trimmed off were through to the forty five degree cut on the stem, I checked the other two and they were the same.I went to removing the one that fell over and the part of the stem that was in the inert just fell off.The rest of the stem seems okay so I retrimmed it above that re-aplied rooting hormone and stuck in rockwool.
In the aerocloner I used Schultz Starter Plus Root Stimulator solution as well as a very week solution of nutriants.Before placing the cuttings into the cloner they were treated withe Schultz Take Root rootting hormone powder wich washed off in the cloner.
If any one knows what caused the problem or just how to avoid the problem please reply.

Grow_4_us Reviewed by Grow_4_us on 10-07-2007. Problem cloningn with a aerocloner, need assistance. I recently got a aeroclonr, it's a 3.5 gallon bucket with four jet sprayers and 8 (eight) sights for clones.I placed three clones in it and after day two one fell over at the base where it is inserted into the inert.It seemed as if the inner part of the stem washed out from where the nodes that got trimmed off were through to the forty five degree cut on the stem, I checked the other two and they were the same.I went to removing the one that fell over and the part of the stem that was in the Rating: 5

[Grow_4_us]

stinky?

[lmdesade]

I'd say don't put nutes in there yet. I like using dip n gro, but a lot of the people using aero cloners don't use anything. The other reason for the plant drooping can be due to how close the light is to the plant. ONe overlooked point in cloning sometimes is light intensity. The plant can't handle a lot of light until it has roots. I also like using pure perlite for my cloning look up wick cloners. They work great as well.

[PharmaCan]

Do you have a dome covering your plants?

It sounds like the stem just rotted away, but it's kind of unusual for it to happen in only two days. :wtf:

A tray, dome, rapid rooters and Clonex can be bought for around $40. Using those materrials, if you are as dumb as dirt you can get about a 50% success rate. If you can walk and chew gum at the same time, you should be able to get your success rate up to around 80%. If you can actually read and follow instructions, 95% - 100% success is possible.

I know that's not what you wanted to hear, but cloning in a dome with rapid rooters is almost foolproof, while your aerocloner obviously isn't. If you must stick with the aerocloner, get rid of the nutes and use some Clonex in with your water ...and make sure to use some kind of humidity dome.

PC :smokin:

[Grow_4_us]

Do you have a dome covering your plants?

It sounds like the stem just rotted away, but it's kind of unusual for it to happen in only two days. :wtf:

A tray, dome, rapid rooters and Clonex can be bought for around $40. Using those materrials, if you are as dumb as dirt you can get about a 50% success rate. If you can walk and chew gum at the same time, you should be able to get your success rate up to around 80%. If you can actually read and follow instructions, 95% - 100% success is possible.

I know that's not what you wanted to hear, but cloning in a dome with rapid rooters is almost foolproof, while your aerocloner obviously isn't. If you must stick with the aerocloner, get rid of the nutes and use some Clonex in with your water ...and make sure to use some kind of humidity dome.

PC :smokin:

Currently I got them trimmed repowdered(rooting hormone),put in rockwool and in a humidity dome.Hope they recover and it works.
Thanks though.The clonex is a solution or the cloning gel??

[texas grass]

gel
and in my eyes gels are the best

[Grow_4_us]

Would adding Dina Grow K-L-N to the water in the aerocloner be okay?
Here's a link to the stuff,I'm not sure how to add a link so if this doesn't work then search it in ebay for details.

Dyna-Gro K-L-N 8 oz. Root Stimulator KLN 8oz Hormone - (eBay item 190161090708 end time Oct-15-07 16:10:30 PDT)

[PharmaCan]

Clonex is a solution - you use it to soak the rapid rooters in. With a hydro set-up you would mix it with the water in the res.

I don't know what dyna-gro is - never used it.

PC :smokin:

[lmdesade]

Stop adding stuff to your clones. It may be one of your problems. The only way that you can kind of figure it out is to start isolating products. I also didn't think to ask. Did you clean your aero cloner before using it? Domes are a nice safety item as well. I just don't need them where I am. How are your clones doing since being under the dome with the rockwool? Are they in rockwool in the aero cloner?

[Grow_4_us]

Stop adding stuff to your clones. It may be one of your problems. The only way that you can kind of figure it out is to start isolating products. I also didn't think to ask. Did you clean your aero cloner before using it? Domes are a nice safety item as well. I just don't need them where I am. How are your clones doing since being under the dome with the rockwool? Are they in rockwool in the aero cloner?

I'm not just adding stuff to the clones.I was following the directions that came with the cloner and if I'm correct it's better to add a rooting hormone solution to the water in the aero cloner.Since it was put in the dome, only one survived so far and it is on a tray with a dome cover.Simular to that of a cake container you'd get from the store when purchasing a cake.It seems to be doing kind of okay.I just ordered superthrive since Zandors cloning 101 states "You do feed them with a very week nutrient mix I use the GH 3 part w/B-1 or superthrive".It's in the forums if you'd like to check it out.As for the problem with the aerocloner I was thinking that maybe the sprayers might of been hitting it too hard.If any one agrees let me know till then I'm just sticking to rockwool and plain ole water.

Thanks for letting me know that clonex also gots a solution as well as cloning gel.I use to only see the clonex gel now that I searched for the solution I found it and will probably use it next time for clones.