Quote Originally Posted by delusionsofNORMALity
it's not the concept of liberalism that i attack, it's the asinine socialist gibberish of the nouveau-left that i find impossible to tolerate. the notion that we should entrust our well-being to the tender mercies of the state is foolhardy at best. in a true democracy it might be a viable alternative, but true democracy is nothing more than a utopian dream. all of those freedoms you hold so dear would be negotiable if the state were given that kind of control.

look to the socialist style institutions that are already in place if you need a few examples of government run amok. welfare systems throughout the country are riddled with fraud and ineptitude, the public school system is a joke that retards the progress of the gifted and rewards mediocrity, social security is an ill-planned pyramid scheme that is crumbling before our very eyes. every time the government steps in to level the playing field we end up with an unwieldy bureaucracy and corruption from one end to the other. this is what the new left has come to represent, the fettering of genius for the sake of the mediocre.

true liberal ideology embraces freedom and change for the betterment of the society. i was born a liberal, i was a communist before i left grade school and i've struggled against the reactionary policies of the uncaring institutional machines wherever i found them. it's sad to see the labels i proudly endured corrupted by those whose aim is merely the latest face of totalitarianism. if you wish to be fooled by their propaganda and believe that they just want to save you from yourself, go ahead and stumble blindly into your cage. that new world order that has you all so scared is not just some neo-con plot, it is and always has been the ultimate goal of all those in power. liberal or conservative, their desired end is the same - control over ever aspect of your life.
I see, then I misunderstood your post previous to this one, because I didn't know where exactly you stood. I have to agree with you completely, because you are indeed correct on this issue (as I see it). And no, I don't believe they want to save me from myself. Scared of the NWO? The concept is certainly frightening, but it is most likely not what it seems... as not everything is as it seems. I do believe that there is a group trying to set the NWO in place, to rule every aspect of everyone's life. History only shows this as a great possibility. There has always been someone trying to rule the world.

It is a utopian dream, but what has ever started without a dream? :thumbsup: