Glycerine-based cannabis tincture?

[dragonrider]

In this thread, someone posted info about using glycerine as the solvent to disolve THC from buds:
http://boards.cannabis.com/recipes/1...abis-food.html
It sounded like the advantage was that you could put the drops under your tongue. It said that glycerine will enter your system from under your tongue, while other kinds of tinctures based on alcohol won't. It said that the high comes on faster than other methods of ingestion.

Has anyone ever tried to use glycerine? How did it work? How did you do it?

BTW, I checked around on other forums and one had this same recipe. People there decided that the second method described in the post was probably not accurate, becasue no one was able to find the equipment specified, specifically the "pharmaceutical grade boling beaker with threadlock top." They decided that whole high temperature boiling beaker method thing was bunk and maybe dangerous, but some of them tried the warm-and-shake method of extraction. So I'm wondering if anyone here has tried that.

dragonrider Reviewed by dragonrider on 10-04-2007. Glycerine-based cannabis tincture? In this thread, someone posted info about using glycerine as the solvent to disolve THC from buds: http://boards.cannabis.com/recipes/133450-healthier-cannabis-food.html It sounded like the advantage was that you could put the drops under your tongue. It said that glycerine will enter your system from under your tongue, while other kinds of tinctures based on alcohol won't. It said that the high comes on faster than other methods of ingestion. Has anyone ever tried to use glycerine? How Rating: 5

[Coelho]

I tried it today, and am starting to feel the effects... i hope it keep increasing... later, or tomorrow, i will report how it was.

[20dollarholla]

I have heard of this method before. They let 1oz of bud to sit in a sealed jar of glycerine and shake vigerously for 2 months. It makes sense that it would hit you quicker and be stronger because it is being absorbed sublingually instead of having to travel through the G.I.tract.

I have never tried this myself, but it all makes sense. The time waiting game is something I suck at so I came up with another method. Take the material you would be using and turn it into Butane Honey oil, heat the glycerine, combine the two and put it in a blender. It sure would take a lot less time, but I'm not sure if the BHO and Glycerine will seperate once they cool own a bit.

[dragonrider]

I tried it today, and am starting to feel the effects... i hope it keep increasing... later, or tomorrow, i will report how it was.

Coelho? Are you there?
Hellooooo?
Are you in the other dimension?
Did you meet Shamanic Hippie and Sparknote? Are they still high?
I just mixed a shot of green dragon into my morning coffee, so I'll see you guys in about an hour. Wait for me where the yellow brick road goes into the poppy field. I'll bring some snacks and flying monkey repellent.

[subsonicbug]

what happened with this method?
I am currently trying the green dragon technique to try and get the best results i can out of that. But if the extraction rate/amount by glycerin is much more than alcohol I would like to start trying this technique.
Could someone outline this technique a little better than savagepossum's post?

[Coelho]

what happened with this method?
I am currently trying the green dragon technique to try and get the best results i can out of that. But if the extraction rate/amount by glycerin is much more than alcohol I would like to start trying this technique.
Could someone outline this technique a little better than savagepossum's post?

Well... i think i discovered a better (and MUCH faster) technique... look at my posts at:

http://boards.cannabis.com/recipes/1...ml#post1682835

Coelho? Are you there?
Hellooooo?
Are you in the other dimension?
Did you meet Shamanic Hippie and Sparknote? Are they still high?
I just mixed a shot of green dragon into my morning coffee, so I'll see you guys in about an hour. Wait for me where the yellow brick road goes into the poppy field. I'll bring some snacks and flying monkey repellent.

Well... i didnt meet any of them... unless they were transformed in hot chicks... cause it was the only ones i met in the "another dimension" Like... i tried the tincture, went reasonably high (not much), ate and slept.
Then, i had a dream... unlike all dreams i ever had... i dreamed i was in a store, and there was a woman that was the storekeeper, and also 3 chicks there. For some unknown and uncomprehensible reason, the storekeeper started to flirt with me, and also the three chicks. I remember they were not very pretty, but were hot. Then, in the next scene (you know how dream change fast) i was here in my house, fucking the chicks. Most of the time, with two at the same time!!! I wont enter in details here, i only can say i never ever had a dream like that... I rarely, almost never dream im fucking anybody... so, fucking THREE was really a thing far beyond my wildest dreams (literally)...
I wont say it was caused by the tincture, probably it was just a conicidence... but surely i will try this tincture again... if i dont enter the another dimension, hopefully i will met the chicks again, in the dreamland...

[dragonrider]

Then, i had a dream... unlike all dreams i ever had... i dreamed i was in a store, and there was a woman that was the storekeeper, and also 3 chicks there. For some unknown and uncomprehensible reason, the storekeeper started to flirt with me, and also the three chicks. I remember they were not very pretty, but were hot. Then, in the next scene (you know how dream change fast) i was here in my house, fucking the chicks. Most of the time, with two at the same time!!! I wont enter in details here, i only can say i never ever had a dream like that... I rarely, almost never dream im fucking anybody... so, fucking THREE was really a thing far beyond my wildest dreams (literally)...
I wont say it was caused by the tincture, probably it was just a conicidence... but surely i will try this tincture again... if i dont enter the another dimension, hopefully i will met the chicks again, in the dreamland...

Well, that sounds like a very satisfying result of your experiment! I would say forget about the other dimension and meet up with the hot chicks again!

[Coelho]

I will try in about one hour... and i hope to find them again, even if i didnt used the tincture... i just smoked the isomerized hash oil from the bad old weed i had, and went HIGHHH... the isomerization really works wonders with old weed... :stoned::stoned::stoned:

[ucesq]

I thought I'd post the recipe in this thread for easy reference:

here is something i found on the net awhile ago: PotDrops(CannaGliss) Sticky

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Ok so the following is a recipe/method for creating a very interesting excellent substance, which me and some of my friends have come to call Cannagliss! It is a THC based substance which allows you to get an almost all-body-stone with a method that is easy to conceal!

It increases the potency of your weed 16x, technically, although unless you are very stickly about the directions I am about to give, chances are you wont be able to wait the full time for the drops, or wont have the equipment to get the full and total potential out of the drops.

What you need:
1oz of good quality bud (quality does make a very big difference in this recipe!)
1cup Food Grade Glycerine (available from your local pharmacies or drugstores or health shops)
Cheesecloth
A glass bottle with a sealable lidâ?¦ preferably metal.
A glass dropper bottle
Your computer exhaust or something to heat it consistently for days on endâ?¦ NOT A HOT LIGHT
You can of course use considerably less amounts of pot for this recipe. You can use as little as 1 gram of finely ground weed in 8.5ml of glycerine. Increase amounts in proportionâ?¦ so 1/4oz would get a 1/4cup etc etc.

Then you have to leave the weed in the glycerine for two full months (thatâ??s 6 weeks!), shaking it each and every single day at least once. My first batch I shook maybe 8 times daily, and had it consistently heated 10-20 degrees Celsius above room temperature.

This whole process can be exceedingly quickly accelerated by the extra heating and shaking. It can go from taking 6 weeks to 2, and if you have the right equipment, it can take as little as 14 hours. By simply putting mine in the exhaust of my laptop and keeping it there 24/7 except for when shaking, it was almost ready in about 2 weeks. If I had left it for another week it would have been perfect. The end product should be a pine green colour, and smell exceedingly strong.

Once you have let the drops sit for long enough for all the thc to have dissolved into the glycerine, than you can put it into a glass dropper bottle. If you want to check the glands of the Herb to see if there is actually any THC left, examine the Herb under a microscope before putting the bud into the glycerine, then simply take a piece out of the mix when you want to check it and examine it again under the microscopeâ?¦ the change will be very obvious, and you will be able to see if any trichomes remain on the glands. If either you see that there is no more thc left in the pot, or you can see the colour of the glycerine turn darkâ?¦ or just wait the full 2 months (this is the best bet always).

You can use pure kief for this recipe as well, when you do this just use about 3x as much glycerine as you have kief, and put the glycerine in the bottom of a very tall and skinny bottle, then put the kief on top. Shake and heat the same as you would the normal drops. With kief you can actually see whether or not it is entirely dissolved, so simply bottle it minus the straining once everything has dissolved nicely

If you have an autoclave, or a pharmaceutical grade glass beaker with threadlock top, than this next method is for you!

Take 1oz of primo bud, not crushed but de-stemmed and totally and completely dried out. Toss them into a screw seal boiling beaker. Then, you must absolutely ABSOLUTELY use thread lock on the beaker. If you donâ??t do this, its totally pointless to even try this method. Put the bud in the beaker with 1 cup glycerine, boil in your oven or on an autoclave at 155C or 311F. Leave for 36 hours. It should be boiling for most of this time, but air should not be escaping the beaker. Remove and let cool. Upon cooling it should have separated into a green oily substance (which you want to keep) and a black thick tar, which in this case tested at 12% THC. The green oily substance in this case tested at 88% THC. The bud should have completely and totally dissolved into the glycerine. That black tar stuff is all the plant material. It can be tossed if you likeâ?¦ or you could try drying it and smoking it, its up to you. (Thanks to Quanium for testing this for us!)

Once you have your drops, you can soak some of your normal bud in it to give it an extra little kick. Or you can put a few drops in a joint, or just on the top of a bowl in a bong. But by far the single best way to do this is to put just a few drops under your tongue and hold it there for about 2-3 minutes. Will make you go absolutely mad. The better herb you have, the better this concoction will be.

Dosage numbers:
Approximately 2-3 drops per dosage for a good timeâ?¦ equals about 6 bowls of good weed smoked in a bong, if the recipe is done properly.
This means that every ounce of herb and a cup of glycerine mixture you have, you will end up with approximately 4800 drops (or 1600 doses) if strained completely.
For only one gram of herb and 8.5ml of glycerine you will get about 60 doses at 3 drops each.
â?¦This is comparable to a normal approx 97 .3g bowls that you would get out of an ounce on an average basis.

Then of course there are those of you going "Well this sounds just too good to be true!" Well here is some chemistry for you non believers! Glycerine is a sugar alcohol, and thc is alcohol soluble. Simple chemistry then shows us then that the thc will be soluble into the glycerine given enough time. Now this said, it isnt a 100% alcohol or anything near it, which is why it takes so long for it to sit. But then why use glycerine instead of everclear or something like that and just make green dragon? Well unlike other types of alcohols, sugar alcohols are able to be absorbed exceedingly easily by the arteries underneath your tongue! And when the THC binds to the glycerine, this makes it easily absorbed into your bloodstream on a direct path for your brain! The absorption of THC into the bloodstream from smoking joints sits at about 15%, the amount for using a bong ranges from 25-35% approximately, and the amount for using a vaporizer or cooking ranges from about 45-55%. With the glycerine absorption method intake has been tested with various other drugs (mixed with glycerine as tinctures) with up to 90% absorption. This should be about enough proof I think to convice most of the doubters.

Now we all know that weed isn't unhealthy for you if taken in right, so what about glycerine?
Well, glycerine is in your toothpaste, in lubricants, skin care products, used in cough syrupsâ?¦ So its safe to ingest. Is it safe to smoke? Well glycerine is an almost globally used compound in everyone's favorite flavored smoke - Shisha.

It seems that a lot of the techniques developed by Master Wu for Green Dragon should be applicable to this. For example, Decarboxylation could be used to convert the THCA to THC.

What I don't understand about the above-recipe is the very long (36 Hour) heating time and requirement for a thread-lock beaker or autoclave. First, GD only has to boil for about 20-30 minutes to create a potent mix. My simple understanding of the process is heat applied to herb breaks down cell walls to release more THC to bind with the Alcohol or Fat. Therefore, if the temperature is not heated anywhere close to the boiling point of Glycerine - why must an airtight container be used? Is there some reaction occurring between the Glycerine and air that I don't understand at 311F? Since Glycerine does not boil until 554F, it should be fine without being airtight.

Dragonrider and others - please give me your thoughts on this.

[Coelho]

It seems that a lot of the techniques developed by Master Wu for Green Dragon should be applicable to this. For example, Decarboxylation could be used to convert the THCA to THC.

Indeed... combining all techniques allow us to make the best extractions ever.

What I don't understand about the above-recipe is the very long (36 Hour) heating time and requirement for a thread-lock beaker or autoclave. First, GD only has to boil for about 20-30 minutes to create a potent mix. My simple understanding of the process is heat applied to herb breaks down cell walls to release more THC to bind with the Alcohol or Fat. Therefore, if the temperature is not heated anywhere close to the boiling point of Glycerine - why must an airtight container be used? Is there some reaction occurring between the Glycerine and air that I don't understand at 311F? Since Glycerine does not boil until 554F, it should be fine without being airtight.
Dragonrider and others - please give me your thoughts on this.

Well... ive been making experiments with glicerin lately, and ive concluded that to dissolve THC in glicerin is FAR harder than dissolve it in alcohol... thats why the time needed is greater.
Also, glicerin is hygroscopic, what means it absorbes water form the air. And the water interferes the solubility of THC, as it is not soluble in water. I think thats why the container must be airtight.
Maybe some reaction with the air also happen at this temperatures (oxidation by oxigen)... dont know for sure... but its possible. Unfortunately i havent this equipments, or i would try it myself...