Quote Originally Posted by medicinal
How can you be at war with an Idea? The Idea is they fucking hate us and want us to leave. If we were to leave, they would have nothing to hate, so the violence would have to subside. Reasoning 1-A, try it.
Sorry, "reasoning 1-A" doesn't work with muslems that are taught almost birth to KILL ALL INFIDELS.....this includes *ANYBODY* that is not of their faith/religion. You can't reason with a zelot. They have no fear of death, because they have 72 virgins to look forward to when they martyr themselves.....case in point;
From a Corrections Officer.

Allah or the Lord Jesus Christ? ..A Bit Scary

This is very interesting and just a bit scary ..The Muslim religion is the
fastest growing religion per capita in the United States , especially in the
minority races!!!

Allah or The Lord Jesus Christ? ... By Rick Mathes

Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for
maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training session
there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman Catholic,
Protestant and Muslim faiths, who explained each of their beliefs.

I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say. The
Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete with a
video. After the presentations, time was provided for questions and
answers.

When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Imam and asked: "Please,
correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that most Imams and clerics of
Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the
world and, that by killing an infidel, (which is a command to all Muslims)
they are assured of a place in heaven. If that's the case, can you give me
the definition of an infidel?"

There was no disagreement with my statements and, without hesitation, he
replied, "Non-believers! "

I responded, "So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of
Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they
can have a place in heaven. Is that correct?"

The expression on his face changed from one of authority and command to
that of "a little boy who had just been caught with his hand in the cookie
jar." He sheepishly replied, "Yes."

I then stated, "Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine Pope
John Paul commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr.
Stanley ordering all Protestants to do the same in order to guarantee them a
place in heaven!"
The Imam was speechless!

I continued, "I also have problem with being your 'friend' when you and your
brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me! Let me ask you a
question. Would you rather have your Allah, who tells you to kill me in
order for you to go to heaven, or my Jesus who tells me to love you because
I am going to heaven and He wants you to be there with me?"
You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head in shame.
Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the 'Diversification'
training seminar were Not happy with Rick's way of dealing with the Islamic
Imam and exposing the truth about the Muslims' beliefs.

In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.S. to elect the
President! I think everyone in the U.S. should be required to read this,
but with the Liberal justice system, liberal media and the ACLU, there is no
way this will be widely publicized.

This is a true story and the author, Rick Mathes, is a well-known leader in
prison ministry.