Thanks Crispi,I have started a price list for my ultimate and regular setups and I have used Texas Hydro as kind of a base price to go off from.I noticed that lots o' places have much better prices but really stick it to you on the shipping.Overall they seem to be pretty fair with pricing and shipping.Great setup,easy and quick.No sharp instruments to cut,slice,and dice myself with,haha.Not the swiftest guy in the world.I made the aero cloner and made it with out bleeding I was so proud of myself.Three days later Im taking cuttings and ended up sticking an excto knife in my foot,haha.So sooner or later Ill bleed on my projects,its why I have misshapen skinless knuckles,haha.Thanks for the link and all of the input.When I get going Ill post a pic.Take care brother.