DWC container/res/controller question

[Charles U Farley]

Hey Everyone,I have been researching,reading,and finding out all the information I can on dwc for the past year and half,I am ready to take the plunge (pun intended)and get wet.I was thinking about starting with just 4-6 ind.units to start with a controller bucket,and a res.

My question is this,with the remarkable growth,yields,and results from dwc what would happen if you pumped the space for the roots?My water bill in not a problem as I dont have one.I was thinking of running 4-6 18 gal tote containers with a 45 controller container, and a 50 gal. (or so) Res.Each 18 gal container would get one plant in a 6"inch net pot with 4-6 weeks of veg.I do have vertical limitations which means anything close to 6' would have to get moved to the side of my 1k hps lights.I know this would produce some huge trees given ideal conditions(means no screw ups on my part,lol).Im thinking about doing this and topping the plants a week or so before moving them into my flowering room.

My space is approx.10x12 with three 1k hps and an ideal plant height of 5'5"-5'8".I did a grow last winter and for various reasons my girls had three months of veg and I had real problems with the vertical limitations in my space.Great yields for a first time grow (avg.4.1 per plant dry)and I learned alot.

I just built a diy aero cloner and took over 50 cuttings this weekend and it looks like one is not doing well and the rest look great.Lots of small scrapy cuttings that I wouldnt normally take and so far (I know its way way early)they look good.This has given me the confidence to try to build my own very lage dwc system.For the cloner I used a 45 gal. rubbermaid tub,1/2 pvc tubing and about 50 sprayers with a 535 (or so) sub. pump with home made inserts(pipe insulation,foam).

I would appreciate any input from the experienced folks (and I know there are lots) on my ideas.Has anyone gone this large with ind.containers?It just makes sense to me as the only limitation on this particular method seems to be container size.

Charles U Farley Reviewed by Charles U Farley on 09-30-2007. DWC container/res/controller question Hey Everyone,I have been researching,reading,and finding out all the information I can on dwc for the past year and half,I am ready to take the plunge (pun intended)and get wet.I was thinking about starting with just 4-6 ind.units to start with a controller bucket,and a res. My question is this,with the remarkable growth,yields,and results from dwc what would happen if you pumped the space for the roots?My water bill in not a problem as I dont have one.I was thinking of running 4-6 18 gal Rating: 5

[xcrispi]

Containers dont need to be that big .
Our rooms are identical in size and height 6ft sucks , Im jealous - I only have 2000w. though 4.1 oz. or lbs. ? You'd be suprised . I only top once right when your talking and average about a lb. per bucket . Could yield more by additional topping but tying all that to the ceiling is a p.i.t.a and hinders my spinning the buckets easily .
http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/...wings-ons.html

Check out my last go , maybe some ideas etc...^

You can never have to much grow equip. bro. be careful it's contaigious huh ?
Peace
Crispi :jointsmile:

[Charles U Farley]

Hey Crispi

Containers dont need to be that big . 
Our rooms are identical in size and height  6ft sucks , Im jealous - I only have 2000w. though  4.1 oz. or lbs. ? You'd be suprised .  I only top once right when your talking and average about a lb. per bucket . Could yield more by additional topping but tying all that to the ceiling is a p.i.t.a and hinders my spinning the buckets easily . 

Thanks for the input...4.1 dry oz in a soiless mix my first time out.I have another 1k hps in the wings but it seems overkill as I have trouble with temps now.Glad to know Im on the right track about topping.Ive been pretty tenative about any clipping,trimming at all.I did clip the smaller thin branches this time and that is mostly what I took the cuttings from.

I know your right about the containers and their size.I was just wondering what a person could do with a series of 18 gal containers and a 2-3 month veg.I think about that often and wonder if one had the vertical space if you would be able to match or beat an outdoor grow?

Check out my last go , maybe some ideas etc...^

You can never have to much grow equip. bro. be careful it's contaigious huh ?
Peace 

As soon as Im done here Im gonna check your stuff out,thanks for the input,and your right about equipment,Im always looking to improve my setup.Take care and thanks again brother.

[Weedhound]

Yeah Crispi...think you can match an outdoor grow????

charles...I'm teasing....run a search on this guy.....just ONE of the plants in his growroom yielded 19oz.....i kid you not....:wtf:

[Weedhound]

http://boards.cannabis.com/cannabis-...y-crispis.html

check this thread out charles.....

[Charles U Farley]

charles...I'm teasing....run a search on this guy.....just ONE of the plants in his growroom yielded 19oz.....i kid you not

Wow,Im reading his latest right now,holy smokes,that is damn impressive given that he has the same vertical limitations that I do.Gives me hope for when I decide to get wet.Ill get back to reading his thread...yup its all in good fun,hopefully my skin isnt that thin,thanks for the input sister.

[Charles U Farley]

Hey Crispi,

I just finished going over a number of your threads,and all I can say is..."Im not worthy,Im not worthy"...holy smokes,that is really some impressive plants and results.I did pick up a few pointers and the threads did answer some questions I had.Like how in the heck do you keep things from clogging up with root systems like you had,well I saw your fix.

Weedhound: thanks for pointing me in the right direction,great stuff.Im also looking at your Rhino thread right now.

[xcrispi]

Hey Charles ,
W/ enough topping I've seen 5 lb. plants in 5 gal. buckets indoors .

Ckeck out a Noob to our site Shaggytruedope - 4 - 18 gal. dwc bubblers 5600w. = 12 lbs. These expectations / things your seeing in your head can be made real very easily . Gee officer - It's only 4 plants - that shits all personal .

I intentionally drop my lights back down when I cant cover the canopy any longer = more light to the bottom of the plant and 0 underdevl. buds and sucker branches you talked about cutting off . But once lights dropped dwn I spread them out and spin them 90 deg. everyday so all sides of the plant get a fair chance .

Weedhound and I have been putting our heads together w/ this for almost a yr. now . Shes up from an all time bucket best of 2.5 oz. up to 8.5 oz. now depending upon strain .

I just did like 2 more mos. of work and improvements to that room I linked you to If your interested - chk. it out .

Peace bro.
I'll be watching for you
Crispi :jointsmile:

[Charles U Farley]

Hey Crispi,I did check out the link and room,very very nice.I cant seem to search and find the link to the 18 gal=12lbs deal you mentioned.Yup,its just what I have been thinking of.Pretty sure I will stick to 5 gal buckets and Im sure I will still struggle with vertical issues anyways.Thanks for the tips on dropping the lights.The first run when i had six foot plants I just did the best that I could and moved them off to the side.I also liked the idea of zip tying(I love those things,its the only thing that keeps my old Harley together sometimes,haha)stakes to the sides.That would work for me as my ceiling is so filled up with fixtures,ducting,fans,etc.Ill keep searching for the Shaggytruedope grow,thanks again for all of your input brother,have a good night.

[Charles U Farley]

Hey Crispi,Thanks I found the thread,Im somewhat inept at searching but given enough time will find it eventually.Ya,its pretty impressive,its also a really interesting lighting setup he has there.All of that yeild and the plants were only four and half feet tall,wow.Thanks for inspiration,gives me hope that this can be done.Ill probably start getting things in order and will take a run at it right around new years.Thanks again brother.