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10-01-2007, 02:57 AM #11Senior Member
Why Liberals Make Atrocious Parents
See its other republicans like this that make me hate myself for being a republican. So just that everyone realizes, not every republican is a god fearing, anti gay extremist.
I can not stand crap like this. And I agree with Funk Nugget. Except for the fact that my parents are both republicans. But even so, my very republican parents taught me that being gay is an okay thing. And that everyone deserves respect, regardless of race or sex or sexual orientation.
I will teach my children the same thing. They need to know that sometimes men love men and women love women instead. It's no big deal. These people should not be judged by what they do in their spare time. It's no ones business but their own.
Also, using God as a crutch for having an anti gay agenda is why Im a proud atheist myself.
I don't think politics should be involved with being a parent.
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10-01-2007, 03:01 AM #12Senior Member
Why Liberals Make Atrocious Parents
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
And yes, I agree with you, rebgirl.
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10-01-2007, 03:19 AM #13Senior Member
Why Liberals Make Atrocious Parents
I will teach my children the same thing. They need to know that sometimes men love men and women love women instead. It's no big deal. These people should not be judged by what they do in their spare time. It's no ones business but their own.
Also, using God as a crutch for having an anti gay agenda is why Im a proud atheist myself.
I don't think politics should be involved with being a parent.
yes, yes, and yes
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10-01-2007, 01:51 PM #14OPSenior Member
Why Liberals Make Atrocious Parents
Originally Posted by birdgirl73
I do believe you and y'all are the exception to the rule for left-leaners,because y'all made yer children yer highest priority..may I even go so far as to guess that you didn't treat them like little adults..allowing them to rule the home like many liberals do ?
Many liberal parents realize too late,that treating their children like little adults,has resulted in the loss of their alpha roles as parents and that the children have assumed the alpha roles and with the threat of anti-spanking laws,many liberal parents actually live in fear of their children.
Among us conservative parents here in Texas,you know that dog won't hunt..because we don't surrender our leadership roles.
Have a good one ...
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10-01-2007, 02:30 PM #15Senior Member
Why Liberals Make Atrocious Parents
Just look at George W. Bush... Liberals don't need to make Conservatives look bad, he did a great job of that. The best thing of him being president, is that we won't see another republican president for a couple of decades.
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10-01-2007, 02:30 PM #16Senior Member
Why Liberals Make Atrocious Parents
Conservative, liberal, blah blah blah. I have voted for people from 3 or 4 parties the last few elections. Many Americans I have spoken to are Socialist, Libertarian, or paleo- Conservative, but they don't realize it.
I think the Democrat/Republican, liberal/conservative paradigm is divisive. Having these two parties in control is a way for those two parties to stay in control. Bush, Clinton, Bush _____ - fill in the blank. The more power these people have, and the more they lust for it, the more they have in common. Do you think George W. Bush and Hillary Clinton have more in common with each other, or the average American? What about his dad, and her husband? Bush was literally backing Clinton recently (as in standing behind her, beaming).
I got so sick of the two party system, I joined the Green Party, but I joined the Republican party so I can vote for Ron Paul in the primaries.
I talked to a climatologist for about 45 minutes (or rather, he talked to me) on the phone about global warming. One thing he said upsets him, is the media takes an extremely complex issue, and reduces it to a few sound bytes.
terror, suicide, conspiracy, immigration reform, globalization, consolidation, reduction in benefits, sexism, racism, kook, wingnut, rabid, dictator, islamofascism, religious right, outsourcing, oil exploration, oil drilling, public servant, authorities, officials
These are just some random terms and phrases I threw out that have one thing in common, they are emotionally charged with extremely varied connotations. My point is, putting labels on people and yourself, can help you understand the world around you, but more often than not, in the instant-gratification, TV-induced-30-second-attention-span society of ours, we are quick to label, and quick to judge. Our brains are constantly bombarded with input from the computer, TV, radio, and advertisements are swirling around us. Our homes are full of them. So, we must filter out a lot of the input and ignore it. We spend so much energy ignoring things, we don't pay attention to what is important, and consequently become ignorant.
I love talking to people, complete strangers, old friends, my wife, my family. I have found in my travels, that many people that I stereotyped as different from me, end up having a lot more in common than I thought... for example: a homeless cokehead, a professor of chemistry, a Vegas card dealer, a thug from the Bronx.
If we look within ourselves at the ways we are racist, sexist, classist, admitting it, then we can change our thoughts, and get along better with our fellow human beings in the world. Listen, anyone emphasizing the differences between you and them probably has something to gain or maintain by division.
It's the old game of, "Let's you and him fight." I am not your enemy. You are not my enemy. The enemy is not the liberals. The enemy is not the conservatives. The enemy is the people who start and perpetuate wars for profit. The enemy is the corporations writing laws. The enemy are the international bankers seeking to wipe out the middle class so there will be only rich and poor. The enemy are the ones moving to destroy national sovereignty in a bid to consolidate their power more and more. The enemy are the ones knowingly poisoning us for profit. Look beyond the labels people give themselves and see what the say, write, and do.
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10-01-2007, 03:55 PM #17Senior Member
Why Liberals Make Atrocious Parents
Originally Posted by angry nomad
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10-01-2007, 06:29 PM #18Senior Member
Why Liberals Make Atrocious Parents
The two major political parties in the U.S. have morphed into one monstor with two heads. What is the difference between the Democrats, who would legislate a more socialist society, and the Republicans, who force socialism down our throats by importing foreigners who will work for slave wages so long as they have their basic needs met by socialist programs that were only designed for a small segment of our (legal) society. Any debate over the merits of Democrat vs. Republican or liberal vs. conservative, as it might apply to those in power, is specious at best and truly detracts from our ability to focus on solving on the real problems that we face; the main one being that we must depose the ruling class and replace the whores with true patriots.
As a conservative, I honestly believe that I have a lot more in common with a patriotic liberal than I do with a New-World-Order neo-con like, say, Sean Hannity. All ideological beliefs need a counter-balance, otherwise they become extreme and oppressive. What has historically made America great is our diversity of opinions and views and ideologies and how they have worked both for and against each other, in a balancing act, in the management of our goverrnment. We don't have that anymore. We only have paid whores who are totally subservient to their multi-national corporate masters.
On another subject, I had to marvel at the total absurdity of Obama's remarks. As the father of a six-year-old son, and the accompianing presence of many other six-year-olds, I can state unequivecally that sex and sexual relationships are about the furthest thing from their young minds. Over the years my son has asked me where babies come from and, over the years, I have explained in increasingly more detail how babies are made. While he is interested in the general concept of babies, he has never expressed any curiosity about the mechanics of the conception process. The point is, six-year-olds have little knowledge of or interest in sexual relations and a conversation like Obama said ocurred with his six-year-old daughter is preposterous.
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10-14-2007, 06:20 AM #19Senior Member
Why Liberals Make Atrocious Parents
Yeah, i'm a conservative and I definitely would take classic liberalism over neoconservatism. The Hannitys and Coulters out there just make me sick. That said, the original post is somewhat humorous when taken from the perspective of conservative stereotyping of liberals. Most conservatives believe that liberals are so enamored by having a wide variety of experiences that they tell their kids to touch stoves in order to feel and understand what a hot stove is really like, and to do something really rude and disrespectful to a stranger in order to understand what response it brings and as an opportunity to ponder how it feels to the other person. When taken in that context the post is... hmm.. a bit redundant actually. And the women who work in clothing stores.... how do they know the political orientation of their customers? Oh, and has he ever been in a deep south Wal-Mart? You'll see the most feaux-patriotic, Bush-lovin-even-though-he's-givin'-them-Messicans-all-our-jobs-but-I-really-don't-care-as-long-as-he-protects-us-from-all-them-Iranian-camel-jockeys conservatives on earth, who have the nastiest kids throwing coke at each other with broken arms and chipped teeth from crashing four-willers in that thick stand of trees thar in the holler. So it's not a liberal thing. Oh, and I'm a true conservative, which is the same I guess as a classical liberal.
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10-14-2007, 09:04 PM #20Senior Member
Why Liberals Make Atrocious Parents
You would figure that growing up in a religious fundamentalist household would be more damaging to a youngsters development than a secular liberal. I don't see how it would be more damaging to be with more liberal parents.
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