thanks, i am still waiting for a forsure seed to show itself. the ones i did this spring one was a hermi(kept the seeds anyway) and the other could have possibly got hermi pollen on it. so i really hope these seeds come through and are healthy. they were 2 weeks into flowering when i tried to pollinate them. the outdoors ones this yr were all female so this is my attempt at getting some good seeds. the male was a clone as well from my spring thing when i sexed them and allowed to grow outdoors by itself this summer.