To prohibit Federal grants to or contracts with Columbia University

[beachguy in thongs]

Way to block the 1st amendment, on United States soil, American government!

If I went through...okay, so let me get this straight. If I volunteered for the ROTC program, they wouldn't let me go to Columbia University?

beachguy in thongs Reviewed by beachguy in thongs on 10-07-2007. To prohibit Federal grants to or contracts with Columbia University To prohibit Federal grants to or contracts with Columbia University -- (DUNCAN HUNTER) GovTrack.US ^ | Sep 26, 2007 | Duncan Hunter H.R. 3675: To prohibit Federal grants to or contracts with Columbia University Rating: 5

[HighTillIDie]

Seriously... what the fuck... so many ignorant people to what this country is about... then they tell us the world is changing, so we should change our belief structure...

THAT IS BS, this isn't a new world, with issues that are conceptually new to man.

why do people allow their personal beliefs to make permanent changes to EVERYONES freedom?

[Torog]

All I have to say is BS. We can sit here and judge this guy and claim war with the country of Iran, but we can't let him speak? Man you people really need to wake up! Tell me how is it treason, or aiding and abetting the enemy? What has Iran done to us? I am also concerned about the state of Israel because right now it is being ran by the same kind of people who run this country. Remember Christians "even the most faithful will be deceived". The downfall of this world will be organized religion.

Sure man,we can let him speak,at the UN. He should not be allowed to speak on our soil and not at our universities,where he has allies amongst the far-left students,who are almost always the majority at universities. It is treason because ahmadinejad,was a central role player in the 79 hostage crisis in Iran,he's been an enemy since then,providing a forum for him to speak,is aiding and abbetting his causes.

Iran is currently fighting us in Iraq,by proxey through it Quds forces and that needs to be stopped immediately.

I'm worried about Israel too..Olmert ain't redneck enuff and seems to be vulnerable to the lies of the muslim jihadists,Israel should have someone like Natanyahu in place as their leader-he's redneck enuff to lead em in a time of war.

As far as organized religion causing the downfall of the world,you may be right-Islam is a pernicious and violent religion..they worked hand-in-hand,with hitler and the nazi's and their goals are similar. There's another kind of organized 'religion' that's threatening the world at this time..it's the 'religion' of the God-less Left and secular-progressives.

Have a good one ...

[andruejaysin]

If anyone here is guilty of treason it's you, by placing the interests if israel above those of the US. That's hardly rare, but where does the idea israel is a US ally come from? What have they ever done for us, except take our money and drag us into fights pointless fights. Sounds like an ex of mine. Time to kick the bitch to the curb.

[jakez]

He should not be allowed to speak on our soil and not at our universities,where he has allies amongst the far-left students,who are almost always the majority at universities.

Gee, I wonder why..

[epxroot]

Sure man,we can let him speak,at the UN. He should not be allowed to speak on our soil and not at our universities,where he has allies amongst the far-left students,who are almost always the majority at universities. It is treason because ahmadinejad,was a central role player in the 79 hostage crisis in Iran,he's been an enemy since then,providing a forum for him to speak,is aiding and abbetting his causes.

Iran is currently fighting us in Iraq,by proxey through it Quds forces and that needs to be stopped immediately.

I'm worried about Israel too..Olmert ain't redneck enuff and seems to be vulnerable to the lies of the muslim jihadists,Israel should have someone like Natanyahu in place as their leader-he's redneck enuff to lead em in a time of war.

As far as organized religion causing the downfall of the world,you may be right-Islam is a pernicious and violent religion..they worked hand-in-hand,with hitler and the nazi's and their goals are similar. There's another kind of organized 'religion' that's threatening the world at this time..it's the 'religion' of the God-less Left and secular-progressives.

Have a good one ...

Then I suppose you are in support for charging Bush with treason since he is the one who gave him the visa to come into this country?

[andruejaysin]

If I went through...okay, so let me get this straight. If I volunteered for the ROTC program, they wouldn't let me go to Columbia University?

Not until you got back from iraq.

[medicinal]

[quote=Torog]Howdy Y'all,

I appreciate yer comments on this subject.

The flaw with this legislation,is that it only targets one university,it should apply to all universities,because there are many universities,where anti-American and subversive activities are going on.

Denying and banning recruiters and the ROTC from campus's,is contray to citizenship in this country,as all American citizens are expected to do their part in defending the country,if called upon. I don't know about the rest of country,but down here in the South,we see such things as bordering on treason..a deriliction of duty,on the part of American citizens who choose to be whiners and complainers and aiders and abbetters of the enemy.

Ahmadinejad is not an American citizen and does not deserve to be accorded the rights and liberties of an American citizen. Despite the bad publicity,ahmadinejad still benefits from giving him a chance to speak in our country,it elevates his prestige elsewhere.

Have a good one ...

PS: the black and white photo,shows ahmadinejad in '79,one of the ring-leaders of the hostage crisis..where he got his start.[/]

As far as I know, they haven't had the draft since around '71', so I say keep all military dictators off campuses. It is a voluntary Army so if you want to volunteer, I'm sure you could find a recruitment station off campus.[/

[KevinFinnerty]

As far as organized religion causing the downfall of the world,you may be right-Islam is a pernicious and violent religion..they worked hand-in-hand,with hitler and the nazi's and their goals are similar.

I have a feeling all I'm going to get in response to this is something along the lines of "but jesus is always right!!!", but here goes...

Organized religion will probably lead to the downfall of the world because believing in religion requires one to abandon such "blasphemous" concepts as reason and logic, concepts that liberals consider extremely important and conservatives tend to avoid. All these right wing religious morons think it's perfectly valid to justify their own or their country's actions and beliefs just by using the bible, which is nothing more than a bunch of glorified fairy tales no more or less credible than the Quran, Torah, Greek mythology, Santa Claus, etc.

Those on the left-wing, however, recognize how incredibly stupid it is to think one of these bunches of fairy tales is more credible than another, considering that each religion, by definition, expects their followers to believe in them without any sort of legitimate rationale and lauds such so-called faith as virtuous. It's not just that there's no empirical evidence and/or logical reasoning, either, it's that these religions, on the one hand, claim that no evidence or reasoning of any sort is necessary to believe, yet they also claim that people who don't adhere to their beliefs due to the lack of evidence or reasoning will be subjected to eternal damnation. Essentially, Christians want you to believe in their religion over other similarly outlandish concepts "just because" (which might be a good enough reason for the brainless conservative right) and claim that you'll rot in hell forever if you don't. You would think that believing something so irrational would be enough to preclude someone from becoming president of their local homeowners association, much less the "leader of the free world", but all the brainwashed religious nuts continue to have their way.

There's another kind of organized 'religion' that's threatening the world at this time..it's the 'religion' of the God-less Left and secular-progressives.

What a ridiculous statement. First of all, it can hardly be called a religious belief to acknowledge that it's completely idiotic and delusional to believe in a particular set of, unprovable by their own definition, fairy tales over another. I know you bible-thumpers love to claim that believing in a god and not believing in a god involve similar leaps of faith, but they simply don't. Believing in a god first requires you to accept as unequivocally true something for which it is impossible to bring forth any sort of evidence, then it requires you to believe that those who don't adhere will be punished for eternity. Not believing in a god simply requires the common sense to realize how dumb it is to believe any religion that claims to know the unknowable and calls for the persecution of non-believers, Unfortunately you religious nuts tend to lack, and in fact belittle, this sort of common sense.

Another thing: you claim that the godless left and secular progressives are threatening the world at this time, yet the country and government that you've been railing against, Iran, represents the complete opposite end of the spectrum. The truth is that the religious Right in this country is MUCH more similar ideologically to the Arab governments like Iran than is the Left. Whereas conservatives, in a fashion similar to the way Muslim governments use Islam, often talk about how this country was supposedly based on Christianity and should make decisions according to what the bible says, liberals instead promote the use of logic, reason, and common sense to make decisions. Whereas conservatives are all about trying to "protect" us as a nation from (according to them) morally corrupt things like marijuana, gambling, and pornography, liberals are fine with letting individuals make their own decisions about what is and what isn't morally acceptable, as long as it isn't hurting someone else. It's hilarious, as well as sad and frightening, that all these idiots from the religious right can't see how believing in and basing government decisions on one group of supposedly holy stories, like Iran with the Quran, is really not that different than basing them on another, like conservatives want to do with the bible. Iran is really just an extreme form of what the conservatives want the U.S. to become in terms of religiously-based tyranny.

[Torog]

Howdy KevinFinnerty,

Boy Howdy ! I wish that I could see the look on yer face..when ya cross over to the Other Side and ya git met by a couple of dead relatives and an angel or 2..and ya suddenly realize that the Bible wasn't just a fairy tale..lol.

My belief in God and Jesus,won't be what leads to the downfall of the world,it will be the muslim who believes that he will be rewarded with 72 virgins,for murdering non-muslims..and folks like you,who are eager to excuse any atrocity committed by them,for the glory of Allah.

The last thing that I associate with liberals,is common sense..and I ain't too sure about logic and reason,either. Yer trying to use the Christian 'taliban' argument,when in fact it's liberals whom seek to usher in a brutal,oppressive,socialistic and wholly secular,goverment that would crack-down on folks of faith and attempt to ban all religion. Btw,there are plenty of liberal Christians on yer side,as well as liberal Jews,that are in the process of re-writing God's Words to be politically -correct..such as rejecting God's warning about homosexuality and women preachers,some who are gay themselves.

You act as though atheists are a majority in this country,thankfully-they ain't..and alot of em,are too lazy to git out and vote,whereas we have a conservative Christian voting block that is gonna give some candidate a huge number of votes as long as they are pro-life,anti-gay marriage,pro-gun and pro-America and pro-family,as well as believeing that Peace can only be secured through strength.

Have a good one ...