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[Non]

I am completely stuck on temperature. there are so many variables I have to play with. im trying to make a perfect vegetable oil extract of the cannabis. I've tried cooking it, "decarbed" and not decarbed in the temperatures of the 220s, and also tried the temperature of 180, and still haven't come up with anything.

now I will want to try the temps higher than 200, but lower than 224. But I want to know for sure what would be the right temperature, just below boiling point for water (224) or even lower than that but above 200. And already decarboxylated in the oven and not. I will try playing with these but I'm getting fed up with all this because nothing has worked.

and I tried almost everything. brownies have not even worked. I may even think that the ingested high you get from eating cannabis is all bullocks and maybe I just have a high tolerance lvl for this kind of ingested thc.

Non Reviewed by Non on 09-27-2007. ok.. I am completely stuck on temperature. there are so many variables I have to play with. im trying to make a perfect vegetable oil extract of the cannabis. I've tried cooking it, "decarbed" and not decarbed in the temperatures of the 220s, and also tried the temperature of 180, and still haven't come up with anything. now I will want to try the temps higher than 200, but lower than 224. But I want to know for sure what would be the right temperature, just below boiling point for water (224) or Rating: 5

[dragonrider]

Oh, Non! Your stories are heartbreaking! Do not lose faith! It really works! I spent most of Monday spaced out of my mind on some Green Dragon I made. Who knows, maybe you have a strange physiological quirk that doesn't allow it to work for you, but I doubt it.

There is probably something going wrong with your technique, or your equipment, or the dosage.

Maybe try this:

1. Decide how much herb to use. How much do you usually smoke to get totally stoned? Use about 3 times that much just to be sure.

2. Don't decarboxylize in the oven because maybe that is where some kind of problem is happening. Maybe somethng is getting too hot. The recipe will use enough heat to convert the THC.

3. Make the double boiler setup described in other posts. Put a saucepan on the stove with a few inches of water in it. Put an empty Pyrex measuring cup in the water. Make sure no water gets in the cup. Bring the water up to a gentle boil. You want to have an empty cup sitting in a bath of boiling water. The water bath will keep things from getting too hot, but should give enough heat to convert THC.

4. Put the herb in the Pyrex cup.

5. Put a teaspoon or more of butter in the Pyrex cup with the herb and let it melt. Make sure all the herb is in contact with the hot melted butter. If there is not enough butter add a little bit more.

6. Keep the water in the saucepan boiling for an hour. That ought to be enough time to do the decarboxylation process and to disolve all the good stuff into the butter. If the water in the saucepan gets low, add another inch of water and bring it back up to a boil. If the stuff inside the cup starts to dry out, add some more butter or some water or some vodka or other liquor that you like drinking.

7. Turn off the heat and remove the Pyrex cup with all the good butter/herb mush in it.

8. Do not fllter or remove anything from the cup. Leave it all in there.

9. Add a teaspoon or more of sugar to the Pyrex cup sweeten it up a bit.

10. Add a shot or two of strong alcoholic liquor (rum, vodka, whiskey, whatever you like) to the Pyrex cup.

11. Add a cup of hot water to the pyrex cup.

12. Stir everything together really good and drink it on down. Don't leave anything in the cup, not any buttery residue, not even the old used up herb peices. Everything goes down the gullet, even if some of it doesn't taste that great. The drink should be sort of like a funky hot buttered rum, but some of the pieces might be a little astringent, so you might want a glass of water handy to help send those down.

13. Wait an hour or two and see if anything happens.

If nothing happens then you are probably immune to ingested THC for some unkown reason. This technique might not make the best tasting beverage, but it should cover all the bases and determine if your system itself is just not able to absorb THC this way. If it works, then you can work on refining some better tasting recipes.

Let us know if you try it and if it works for you.

Good luck!

[Non]

thanks for the recipe. sounds good. I'll try it.

[Non]

Im going to try with coconut oil instead of butter, that should be alright I guess.

[Non]

one thing I'd like to know is the exact temperature the weed and oil should be at so I dont go over.

between 170 f and 200 f, or between 200f and 224f, or between 200f and 219-220f. at 220f degrees supposedly thats when it decarbs, just before the boiling point at 224 F.

the reason Im so obssessed about this is because I want to stop smoking so much and have this good high from eating cannabis every once in a while. I want to perfect an extract so I can enjoy it whenever I like.

[Non]

well the stuffs staying at around 200 or just a little above 200 with the double boiler method. it's probably optimal. but I did notice that there was more smell at 170-200, that came out of the mixture; the smell was stronger. now it doesn't smell at just above 200, so maybe above 200 is too high.

[dragonrider]

Don't worry too much about the exact temperature. Any temperature you can obtain with the water bath will be fine. The water bath tops out at the boiling temperature of water, so it will not allow the temperature to get hot enough to ruin anything. But even if the temperature is a bit lower than the 220 you mentioned, I think giving it an hour should be enough time to decarb it. Just keep a good gentle boil going in the water bath and let it go for about an hour.

I would think the coconut oil should work fine. This is kind of an odd recipe, but I wanted to include both some kind of fat (or oil) and some alcohol so that you would have both of the materials that can disolve and transport THC. Might taste kind of wierd though.

Let us know how it works out!

[Non]

this is just like hot buttered bhang if you dont put so much water

[dragonrider]

this is just like hot buttered bhang if you dont put so much water

I've never made that myself, but this probably is similar. The water is mostly to dilute the mixture to the point where you can drink it, but it is not as necesssary to the effectiveness of the recipe as the fat/oil and the alcohol. So just use as much water as you want.

[Non]

well just to let you all know it didn't really work out.
I think the right temperature is around 180-200.