Quote Originally Posted by sd6515
and it is at this point I make my exit I've learned my lesson about discussing religion creation and all with VERY misinformed people the only thing in this post that holds any truth towards religion is when you said you were told. Because as even stated earlier in this thread the term days in the Bible does not mean days but is a translation from a word that also means EONS which means that religion and evolution are not mutually exclusive and just because everyone would rather fight there side then realize they are actually arguing the same circumstances but misinformed does not mean that true educated and open minded Christians like all I know and assosciate with do not agree with these crazy fundalmentalist creating stories of how we were made simply because a word was translated as day instead of eon. God did not place fossils on the earth and all that was stated and true educated Christians do not believe this either and it is very insultive for you to assume that that is what we believe when it is simply not true and unfair to assume and state this.
Look, I absolutely did not want to start an argument or ruin this thread. I did not mean to offend you or anyone else. I get your earlier point about eons versus days. And I would never presume to tell you what you believe.

I was refering to what I have been told by other people who I have had these creationist conversations with and trying to relate it to the original question of the thread, which was probably a big mistake considering the kind of emotion it stirred up. Anyway, I have had plenty of conversations with Christians who believe that the universe is billions of year old, created over vast expanses of time (eons!) and that evolution occured over that time. That sounds like maybe it's a little more in line with what you believe, but I will not try to characterize your personal beliefs.

I have had other conversations with other people who believe in the exact literal truth of the creation story in the Bible. I think you just referred to those people as "crazy fundamentalists." Harsh, Dude! Anyway, my experience has been that if you bring up things like the fossil record with someone who belives in the literal story, they will bring up the flood or some other biblical event that they think explains some alternative for how the fossils got there, or they will say that God put them there. That is my experinece. I'm not saying you think that or any other particular person or class of people think that. I'm saying I've had that conversation more than once.

To get back to the point of the original thread, if a person believed God just created the 15 billion years of fossil record and put it in the universe, even though he only created the universe 6 thousand years ago, then there is no way to disprove it. Just like there is no way to prove we don't live in the Matrix. I don't believe that God created a fake fossil record (and it desn't sound like you do either), and I don't believe in the Matrix, but I can't PROVE either one is not true.

Again I'm sorry if I offended you. I wasn't really responding to anything you wrote. It took me so long to write my post that I don't think your stuff about eons and such like was even posted when I started. I defnitely was not responding to your post.