Quote Originally Posted by sd6515
Ummmm the pyramids, carbon dating, archaeological finds, written history proven to be from 1000's of years ago, dinosaur fossils, cave writings, the constant movement and changes cause by techtonic plates, mountains constantly changing, earthquakes, proof iceburgs carved out and changed the landscape, family trees(lineage), fossils in general, sandstone do I really have to go on I really hope you were really high when you wrote this lol I mean this is ALL CONCRETE proof and only a very short list
I mean even now as we speak the world is changing I geusse if you were really out there you could think the universe was created then all evidence was planted and then we just spontaneously appeared with memories but come on no one is that dumb lol
I think the universe works pretty much the way science is finding it works. All the historical and scientific evidence that you mentioned are consisitent with each other and reinforce the same kinds of conclusions about how the universe works.

But the original question had more to do with concrete proof for the reality of reality itself. That can't be proven. As long as the universe was internally consistent in all of its physical laws, history, and scientific evidence, then there would be no way to prove that the universe was not just created a second ago, or just some kind of crazy simulation. The logical thing to think is that it was not a simluation, but you can't PROVE that it's not a simulation just becasue the universe is internally consisitent --- it could just be a very good internally consistent simulation.

Now if there was some kind of internal inconsistency, then you would have good reason to question whether reality was the way you thought it was. That's not what we find, so there's not a lot of reason to question the reality of the past, but it doesn't mean you can't.