Thanks for the info opie yutts, i was gonna try this (eliminate the veg cycle) but its too risky as im on like my first grow this year so im gnna wait till i grow at least 2plants den ill start experimenting, but to be honest the first couple of weeks can get boring afta the veg cycle is over i dont mind waiting BUT some people find the last few weeks boring but you just gtta be patient, like you said id rather get (alot of) weed for the time and effort.