How do you deny this?

[HighTillIDie]

you being a veteran, i really hope you're not seriously asking me that question.

the answer, buddy, is no, and anyone that joins the us military should realize that too... one of the easiest ways to not make a difference in this world is to join the us military. not only then, like most of my friends i served with, you will tie your pride to america... which is just setting yourself up for failure...


i may have killed a few people shooting in my general direction, but i did nothing to stop the anguish back home, did nothing to preserve our freedoms. Not only that i fought, when i did not truely believe in the cause. I followed my orders... and i won't do that again.

[higher4hockey]

having pride in your country because of the military is setting yourself up for failure? i think not.

[mfqr]

I win.

[HighTillIDie]

one should not base themselves around a country, but around the simple human truths we all have... isn't that what america is... the land we suposedly liberated to spread humanity and freedom? obviously not.

eventually every regime, comes to an end... the land may continue on with the same culture, and society... but regimes fall... to pride yourself, that you are living in the global regime of america, is perverse... the idea of that, the idea of such close minded pride, will hold back the advancement of people not only in this country, but the rest of the world...

you may not wake up and consider people in other parts of the world, but why does someone in new jersey mean more to you than someone in montreal>?

why does what makes you comfortable, come above the better good?

[mfqr]

I just win so much, I forgot what it feels like to lose.

[jakez]

wow, moved to the "conspiracy" section..

I couldn't be more right..

Is it "Hell in a handbasket" they say? :stoned: