Quote Originally Posted by BathingApes
Vostro, are you against ALL conspiracies (EG Questioning of the accepted truth) or just certain ridiculous ones? If you're against all of them, you should probably take the chance to look again at the data.

Take 9/11 as an example; When I look at the facts, at the things that I can say for sure are true, it seems suspicious immediately, and when I see neutral scientific agencies saying that it was physically impossible in this atmosphere for the towers to fall at freefall speed, I get suspicious. Vostro, the media has every reason to broadcast what the government says, for it is controlled by them. The stories you speak of are often the result of renegade reporters or people with a conscience. These stories dont matter to the government as long as everyone still lives in fear. Have you noticed that every time something like Abu Ghraib happens, in the history of recent politics, all that will happen is the Officers involved will be jailed, and a semi-high ranking government official will appear on TV and in the papers to say how unacceptable it is. That will be the end of it. The government has to admit to some things otherwise noone would trust them, not even the brainwashed sheep of this world.

The whole point is control. Everything comes down to it. Banks, education, healthcare, debt, war on drugs, war on terror. EVERYTHING. Think how the US government have benefited since 9/11.

It all revolves around two things, money and control. As Ron Paul says, the only methods that can be used successfully to let the people submit their freedoms to the government are fear and demoralisation. Even if the government played no part in 9/11, the way they have used it to push their political agendas is diabolical and should not be tolerated. 9/11 was used for various reasons. Firstly, to promote a below-the-level anti-Muslim opinion that people hold even subconsciously. For example, if you think your opinions of Muslims to be unaffected by 9/11, next time you're at the airport note how you react when you see a Muslim put his hand in his pocket or in his bag. You feel suspicious right? That's the entire point. This anti-Middle Eastern agenda was used to push the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq (and probably Iran) on the general public. The way we are behaving as a people is similar to the way Germans behaved when Hitler was in power. In years to come we will say that we were just doing what we were told and that it was fear that kept us mentally imprisoned.

You may ask why the government would want to invade Iraq anyway. Two reasons. Oil, and more importantly, territory. There are US military bases being built in Iraq as we speak. The eyes of fear would have you believe that this is all for a reason. It is really no surprise to me that people hate the west. I am not condoning eye for an eye warfare, as the people should never pay the price unless it is their fault, and even then we arent paying attention to individuality. All of this aside, I can understand why people in the East hate the Western world. Afterall, the government is doing whatever they want and most of us are simply letting it happen.

Everything is tied in with this issue. The criminality of cannabis even. In the situation it is now they can never make it legal, as if marijuana was legal, people might get it in their heads that they can actually do something about laws, and the government doesn't want that. In the eyes of the government, conforming, concrete-loving. FOX news-watching hard workers are the best types of citizens. Have you ever seen Office space? Just like most of the people there.

It's a repeating cycle, never ending, infinite. The ONLY way to stop this is either revolution or completely changing our belief system towards the role of government in society.

"It's called the American Dream, cause you have to be asleep to believe it." - George Carlin
I agree with you completely. The only defense is to only take what the government and the press says with a grain of salt.