Quote Originally Posted by HighTillIDie
ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL

are you really afraid of him going to the wtc site and saying "bless the terrorists that did this"???? why, wouldn't that make it easier for us to enter a conflict with iran? Are you afraid of him speaking at a univeristy and giving one of the most historical speeches columbia has recieved... allowing us to judge the bullshit, or his truths.

man should never shrink from adversity, nor fear any words. This country was formed to allow free speech for all that wanted, of any nation, race, creed, or religion. Just as a man on death row has the right to last words, so should the leader of masses, have his right to speak. I personally know an iranian, who can tell you stories of true horror, and who hates this man. We both, disagree with depriving him of America. There is nothing to fear from his visit, and we should use it as an opportunity. Just as he has his freedom of speech, as do we. He knows that comming to america to talk at a university, will almost guarantee, a radical open discussion, with opinions from both sides.

This man knows alot. Much of the information, is information, americans are not privy to.



Also, i can't believe some people argue over protecting a country... aka a system of government.... more than YOUR OWN rights. to deprive others is to deprive yourself.

HOW CAN YOU NOT BELIEVE IN UNIVERSAL RIGHTS?

why is america, the final solution... ?
HTD - What I believe in is the sovereignty of nations and the rights of various people to govern themselves as they see fit.

I do believe that there are some rights which should be allowed to all people on the earth. However, these people have to take responsibility for their own lives and their own governments. It is not up to the USA to police the world under the guise of "liberating" people.

We liberated the Iraqis and the result was anarchy. The only thing proved by liberating Iraq is that the Iraqis are too uncivilized to govern themselves. So put the monkeys back in their cages for a few generations and see if they evolve enough to join the civilized world. If not, they need to be ruled by a tyrant.

We tried to "liberate" Vietnam. I can't help but wonder if the two million Vietnamese we killed in that conflict felt "liberated". Twenty years after the Vietnamese soundly kicked our ass, their society and government have evolved into a pretty good system.

Try to understand my reasoning about Ahmadinejad speaking at the WTC site, The US government has shown some class by allowing him to enter the US to attend the UN. However, this does not mean that he should then be granted the status of a visiting dignatary. It should be made clear that he is persona non grata in the USA, period. Since Ahmadinjad has unfettered access to the world media, it is specious at best to argue that we are somehow interfering with his "freedom of speech".

Another point I am trying to make is that anyone who deprives others of their god-given rights, automatically forfeits their own rights.

And finally, for years the Bush cabal has been bashing Ahmadinejad and trying to fabricate a reason for us to go to war with Iran. Well, now Ahmajinedad wants to stroll unprotected through the streets of NYC. If he is such an evil little bastard, if he is in fact a threat to our country, use this opportunity and assassinate him. Otherwise, Bush, shut the fuck up about Iran!
(Obviously there wouldn't be any trillion dollar expenditure to trickle down to the select few who profit from neo-con wars, so this inexpensive solution would never even be considered.)

BTW - We may never agree on this, but I do appreciate debating the issue without resorting to name calling. Rep to ya for that! :thumbsup:

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