NY university urged to cancel Ahmadinejad speech

[eg420ne]

Hey pharma you too ignorant to debate...by the way calling a brown skin person a 'monkey-boy' is a racist term, just like saying 'sand-monkey'.....but go ahead and spew your hatred...

WoW what a statement "Ahmadinejad has made it quite clear that he is an enemy of the United States" Really?!? when did he say that, b4 or after the Moron in Chief made that Axis of Evil speech.....

"The only right he has in this country is to have his body returned home in a timely manner." Naw really its not about race its about being ignorant and a coward .....

[HighTillIDie]

ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL

are you really afraid of him going to the wtc site and saying "bless the terrorists that did this"???? why, wouldn't that make it easier for us to enter a conflict with iran? Are you afraid of him speaking at a univeristy and giving one of the most historical speeches columbia has recieved... allowing us to judge the bullshit, or his truths.

man should never shrink from adversity, nor fear any words. This country was formed to allow free speech for all that wanted, of any nation, race, creed, or religion. Just as a man on death row has the right to last words, so should the leader of masses, have his right to speak. I personally know an iranian, who can tell you stories of true horror, and who hates this man. We both, disagree with depriving him of America. There is nothing to fear from his visit, and we should use it as an opportunity. Just as he has his freedom of speech, as do we. He knows that comming to america to talk at a university, will almost guarantee, a radical open discussion, with opinions from both sides.

This man knows alot. Much of the information, is information, americans are not privy to.



Also, i can't believe some people argue over protecting a country... aka a system of government.... more than YOUR OWN rights. to deprive others is to deprive yourself.

HOW CAN YOU NOT BELIEVE IN UNIVERSAL RIGHTS?

why is america, the final solution... ?

[ntcrawler]

I couldn't give a rat's ass about some meaningless and unenforcable "Universal Declaration of Human Rights".

We are governed by one document, the U.S. Constitution. Our Constitution supercedes any other document ever written by man.

If the other people of the world want the same protections, they have to earn them. I hate to sound trite, but freedom isn't free. It is neither our responsibility, nor our right, to tell other people how to live.

Ahmadinejad has made it quite clear that he is an enemy of the United States. The only right he has in this country is to have his body returned home in a timely manner.

Get this straight in your head - Tyrants and despots have no rights!!!They have, by their actions, forfeited their membership in the human race. People who allow themselves to be ruled by tyrants and despots deserve what they get.

PC :smokin:

We only helped shape what Iran is today, so give your self a pat on the back.

1953 Iranian coup d'�©tat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[PharmaCan]

Hey pharma you too ignorant to debate...by the way calling a brown skin person a 'monkey-boy' is a racist term, just like saying 'sand-monkey'.....but go ahead and spew your hatred...

WoW what a statement "Ahmadinejad has made it quite clear that he is an enemy of the United States" Really?!? when did he say that, b4 or after the Moron in Chief made that Axis of Evil speech.....

"The only right he has in this country is to have his body returned home in a timely manner." Naw really its not about race its about being ignorant and a coward .....

The last refuge of those who have no point to make - calling people names.

Oh, and as long you are going to call Bush names, I believe the proper title is "Traitor-in-chief". I doubt it is provable that he is a moron, but there is indisputable proof that he has committed treason.

PC :smokin:

[Ravenala]

I guess from a largely American populated audience I shouldn't be surprised at the amount of nationalism, ignorance, and rudeness on these forums. People who claim to be 'far left' yet say they *may* support a war with Iran based on the same bullshit investigations that provided "evidence" about Saddam's WMD? I find it interesting people here call themselves liberals and 'far left' as long as it only applies to their lifestyle and past-times. Not with any sense of world politics or critical thought.

Buying into the "insane and stupid middle eastern" media spins!? While smoking the hash freely that comes out of some of these countries? You realize the hypocrisy that unless your shit is all homegrown you are very likely supporting some 'terrorist' regime with your pot dollars? Of course Walmart and McDonalds also through corporate ties support plenty of terrorist regimes (like the USA government).

What gets me is all the conservative wankers on these forums who don't realize their favorite past time was very close to being decriminalized in the mid-90s, and the current Drug and Terrorism Czars appointed by Bush have been working very hard to link the two issues and therefore further clamp down on your legal enjoyment of soft drugs. Makes ya wonder where Bush gets his blow from, doesn't it? Contra friends?

It amazes me people here smoke weed. Most seem more like coors light types. Take a look at your great Constitution. Yearly your rights have been eroded to the point of being spoon fed acceptable behavior and thought by the usual dumb-ass Anglo media corporations (and yeah I am white, and American). Don't buy into them. They just want you to buy shit you don't need to fund their terrorist activities.

Dictators have no rights? We've afforded GW Bush and his nazi cronie buddies enough. The president of Iran is in essence no more of a thug than GW, Dick, the complicit generals, and the joint chiefs running this show...

And by the way, the *real* chance of Iran funding religious militant IRAQ death squads of any faction is about as likely as Osama and Hussein having teamed up together. These are not all the same religion, race, or ethnicity. Most middle-eastern neighbors hate each other far more than they do us. Which is why we should have kept our fucking noses out of their world. And Al Quaeda gets most of its money from Afghan, Pak, and Saudi sources... It has little or nothing to do with Iraqi and Iranian industry.

[PharmaCan]

ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL

are you really afraid of him going to the wtc site and saying "bless the terrorists that did this"???? why, wouldn't that make it easier for us to enter a conflict with iran? Are you afraid of him speaking at a univeristy and giving one of the most historical speeches columbia has recieved... allowing us to judge the bullshit, or his truths.

man should never shrink from adversity, nor fear any words. This country was formed to allow free speech for all that wanted, of any nation, race, creed, or religion. Just as a man on death row has the right to last words, so should the leader of masses, have his right to speak. I personally know an iranian, who can tell you stories of true horror, and who hates this man. We both, disagree with depriving him of America. There is nothing to fear from his visit, and we should use it as an opportunity. Just as he has his freedom of speech, as do we. He knows that comming to america to talk at a university, will almost guarantee, a radical open discussion, with opinions from both sides.

This man knows alot. Much of the information, is information, americans are not privy to.



Also, i can't believe some people argue over protecting a country... aka a system of government.... more than YOUR OWN rights. to deprive others is to deprive yourself.

HOW CAN YOU NOT BELIEVE IN UNIVERSAL RIGHTS?

why is america, the final solution... ?

HTD - What I believe in is the sovereignty of nations and the rights of various people to govern themselves as they see fit.

I do believe that there are some rights which should be allowed to all people on the earth. However, these people have to take responsibility for their own lives and their own governments. It is not up to the USA to police the world under the guise of "liberating" people.

We liberated the Iraqis and the result was anarchy. The only thing proved by liberating Iraq is that the Iraqis are too uncivilized to govern themselves. So put the monkeys back in their cages for a few generations and see if they evolve enough to join the civilized world. If not, they need to be ruled by a tyrant.

We tried to "liberate" Vietnam. I can't help but wonder if the two million Vietnamese we killed in that conflict felt "liberated". Twenty years after the Vietnamese soundly kicked our ass, their society and government have evolved into a pretty good system.

Try to understand my reasoning about Ahmadinejad speaking at the WTC site, The US government has shown some class by allowing him to enter the US to attend the UN. However, this does not mean that he should then be granted the status of a visiting dignatary. It should be made clear that he is persona non grata in the USA, period. Since Ahmadinjad has unfettered access to the world media, it is specious at best to argue that we are somehow interfering with his "freedom of speech".

Another point I am trying to make is that anyone who deprives others of their god-given rights, automatically forfeits their own rights.

And finally, for years the Bush cabal has been bashing Ahmadinejad and trying to fabricate a reason for us to go to war with Iran. Well, now Ahmajinedad wants to stroll unprotected through the streets of NYC. If he is such an evil little bastard, if he is in fact a threat to our country, use this opportunity and assassinate him. Otherwise, Bush, shut the fuck up about Iran!
(Obviously there wouldn't be any trillion dollar expenditure to trickle down to the select few who profit from neo-con wars, so this inexpensive solution would never even be considered.)

BTW - We may never agree on this, but I do appreciate debating the issue without resorting to name calling. Rep to ya for that! :thumbsup:

PC :smokin:

[king of the world]

all i have to say is some people are getting raped so hard by the media that they cannot think straight. and i really mean that . i bet that if the media was talking nice about him then some of yall would too. so sad, soooo sad.

[Psycho4Bud]

This one is CLOSED!

Image Reaper: Comments like monkey boy don't fly in here at all. Don't know exactly what ya meant by it but it could be interpreted as a racist comment.

eg42One: We've been down this path before and your well aware that personal attacks don't fly......

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[Psycho4Bud]

This one is CLOSED!

Image Reaper: Comments like monkey boy don't fly in here at all. Don't know exactly what ya meant by it but it could be interpreted as a racist comment.

eg42One: We've been down this path before and your well aware that personal attacks don't fly......

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

I guess some people don't understand.......have a good vacation.

Have a good one!:jointsmile: