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    #21
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    NY university urged to cancel Ahmadinejad speech

    `wasnt calling anyone racist, i said it seems.....thanks for your ignorance...why cant he speak is the question...but im am calling thoses people who think other-wise a coward...

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    #22
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    NY university urged to cancel Ahmadinejad speech

    Quote Originally Posted by the image reaper
    I think 'monkey-boy' is more concerned with 'honoring' his fallen comrade terrorists that died there ......
    can you prove that statement...and that SEEMS racist calling him a monkeyboy

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    #23
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    NY university urged to cancel Ahmadinejad speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
    Should be an easy one here.......he's a denier of the holocaust for a prime reason. Universities have public tax backing them and this isn't the type of shit that I want my tax dollars invoved in.
    Disagreement on one issue should not preclude discussion on all issues. This is the leader of a country, and if we're deciding upon something so important as going to war with him, we should know who it is we're attacking. Why should we believe the government's propoganda about Iran's president if we're not even allowed to hear his side of it? It's like holding a murder trial and only allowing the prosecution to speak.
    Besides, our tax dollars go to the University and the education therein. Ahmadinejad isn't a professor, he's a guest speaker, and whether or not you agree with him hearing the opponents side is education.

    Likewise, if they invited some assclown from the KKK to speak I'd feel the same way.
    I agree on that because some stupid-ass racist hick has no place in a university. It's quite a different matter, though, when it's the leader of a nation we may go to war with. My point through this analogy was based on my belief that even KKK members should be allowed to speak their mind in general, not necessarily in a University. Ahmadinejad is being blocked left right and center wherever he tries to speak.

    Both Hussein and Ahmadinejad challenged George Bush to public debate as well. Doesn't say much about your president when he's too afraid to take them on in the public eye and allow the public to hear something other than one adminstration preaching. I would have even been happy to have some other top offical debate them, seeing as George isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer when it comes to thinking on his feet.

    It's mandated that being a member of the U.N. he has the right to speak there........NOT at our Universities.
    That's true. But this is an issue of morality and logical interpretation, not legality.

    How welcome do ya think that G.W. would be speaking at an Iranian University........
    I don't know, he's never requested an audience.

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    #24
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    NY university urged to cancel Ahmadinejad speech

    Let the man speak. Let the man visit ground zero.

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    #25
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    NY university urged to cancel Ahmadinejad speech

    Quote Originally Posted by PharmaCan
    First of all, freedom of speech is a right enjoyed by American citizens, period. Anyone not fitting that criterea should first make sure that it is a freedom which is also enjoyed by every citizen of their country.
    freedom of speech is a fundemental right not mutually exclusive to U.S. . so even he has freedom of speech in america, no matter how much you hate him.

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    #26
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    NY university urged to cancel Ahmadinejad speech

    Freedom of speach, even if you apply it exclusively to America, also encompasses a fundamental aspect of this philosophy; freedom to listen.

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    #27
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    NY university urged to cancel Ahmadinejad speech

    Quote Originally Posted by king of the world
    freedom of speech is a fundemental right not mutually exclusive to U.S. . so even he has freedom of speech in america, no matter how much you hate him.
    The freedoms guaranteed by our Constitution are guaranteed only to American citizens. If other peoples want these same fundamental rights, they need to get off their lazy, primitive asses and secure them for themselves.

    Iranians do not have freedom of speech. To afford their president freedom of speech, when he will not give the same right to the people he governs, is hypocritical and stupid.

    PC :smokin:

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    #28
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    NY university urged to cancel Ahmadinejad speech

    Quote Originally Posted by eg420ne
    can you prove that statement...and that SEEMS racist calling him a monkeyboy
    Mommy, mommy, there's a racist after me.

    :beatdeadhorse:

    PC imp:

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    #29
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    NY university urged to cancel Ahmadinejad speech

    Quote Originally Posted by PharmaCan
    The freedoms guaranteed by our Constitution are guaranteed only to American citizens. If other peoples want these same fundamental rights, they need to get off their lazy, primitive asses and secure them for themselves.

    Iranians do not have freedom of speech. To afford their president freedom of speech, when he will not give the same right to the people he governs, is hypocritical and stupid.

    PC :smokin:
    Universal Declaration of Human Rights

    Article 19.

    Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

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    #30
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    NY university urged to cancel Ahmadinejad speech

    Quote Originally Posted by ntcrawler
    Universal Declaration of Human Rights

    Article 19.

    Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.
    I couldn't give a rat's ass about some meaningless and unenforcable "Universal Declaration of Human Rights".

    We are governed by one document, the U.S. Constitution. Our Constitution supercedes any other document ever written by man.

    If the other people of the world want the same protections, they have to earn them. I hate to sound trite, but freedom isn't free. It is neither our responsibility, nor our right, to tell other people how to live.

    Ahmadinejad has made it quite clear that he is an enemy of the United States. The only right he has in this country is to have his body returned home in a timely manner.

    Get this straight in your head - Tyrants and despots have no rights!!!They have, by their actions, forfeited their membership in the human race. People who allow themselves to be ruled by tyrants and despots deserve what they get.

    PC :smokin:

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