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09-19-2007, 10:12 PM #1OPSenior Member
Vertical Growing ... new age of hydroponics
Vertical Growing is still new to cannabis growers but after doing some research I think it could quadrouble some one yield compared to a flat garden of the same square footage and also takes advantage of lumens by not using reflectors and rather having the light hit the side of the plant instead of the canopy.
There are a few commercial systems out there for vertcal gradens...
Coliseum
Coliseum 300 Plant Growing System Maxi (5x600w) / Vertical Growing Complete Grow Kits / Vertical Growing Systems / AquaCulture Hydroponics
Grow Cube
Cannabis Cage
The cannabis cage
Omega Garden
OmegaGarden.com - Omega Gardensā?¢: Industry Leading Hydroponics Designs for Indoor Gardening
Colseum: 73 cubic feet
Grow Cube: 81 cubic feet
Cannabis Cage: 32 cubic feet
Omega Garden: 24 cubic feet
Flat Garden: 13 cubic feet
Average yield should be 0.1 pound per cubic foot
Coliseum: 7.3 pounds (1600w)
Grow Cube: 8.1 pounds (2000w)
Cannabis Cage: 3.2 pounds (1000w)
Omega Garden: 2.4 pounds (1200w)
Flat Garden: 1.3 pounds (1000w)
The math shows that vertical systems produce a hgher yield per cubic/square footage but even though you could get 8.1 pounds compared to 1.3 pounds I feel that f I were to design my own system I could produce a much higher yield.
The commercial vertical systems are not sticking to the SOG rule to 4 plants per square foot.
Coliseum is 7 feet tall and 6 foot diameter ... the suraface area of the sides of the coliseum equal 131.88
Circumference: 18.84ft x Height: 7 ft. = surface area of 131.88 ft.
131.88 x 4 plants per square foot = 527.52 plants
The coliseum is maxing out at 300 plant stes and at the optimal ounce per plant rule should be producng 18.75 pounds
If maxed out it could possibly be producing 32.97 pounds in under 6 square feet of space!
Ovbiosly this couldnt work becuase to fit 527 plant sites the plants would have to be completly horizontal but I will be makng up a desgn and posting it later designing something simaler to the coliseum but sticking to the 4 plants per square foot rule. I believe from the rough sketch I drew and the math I did I could fit around 500 plants in 6 square feet of space and produce over 30 pounds
There are also some problems to go with this ... at 131 square feet I should need a ton of light.
40w per square foot x 131 ft. = 5240w
5240w in such a small space could cuase some problems ... there are some solutions such as strechting the diameter, use of fans, and water cooled lights but first I want to get a solid design down. I just wanted to share my thoughts first and get some input.
:rastasmoke:Thehulkster321 Reviewed by Thehulkster321 on . Vertical Growing ... new age of hydroponics Vertical Growing is still new to cannabis growers but after doing some research I think it could quadrouble some one yield compared to a flat garden of the same square footage and also takes advantage of lumens by not using reflectors and rather having the light hit the side of the plant instead of the canopy. There are a few commercial systems out there for vertcal gradens... Coliseum Coliseum 300 Plant Growing System Maxi (5x600w) / Vertical Growing Complete Grow Kits / Vertical Rating: 5
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11-01-2007, 05:46 AM #2Senior Member
Vertical Growing ... new age of hydroponics
WOW will follow up on this one. Like the idea.
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11-02-2007, 01:20 AM #3Senior Member
Vertical Growing ... new age of hydroponics
Let me think about this , 1-5-10-15+ years ago:weedpoke: , yea it still works. All but the federal plant count.
Damn feds 100 plants , a leaf with one root , or a tree, its still one plant.:beatdeadhorse::jumphappy::yeahright:
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11-11-2007, 10:09 PM #4Member
Vertical Growing ... new age of hydroponics
Nice idea though. I'd like to try that perhaps on a smaller plant count.
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11-12-2007, 03:22 PM #5Senior Member
Vertical Growing ... new age of hydroponics
unfortunately, many of those numbers have much less meaning when u realize that the lighting is from 1000-2000 in all the different setups. that 8.1 oz in 2000 watts may only be 4 oz with 1000watts
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11-14-2007, 08:45 PM #6Senior Member
Vertical Growing ... new age of hydroponics
I think its an ok idea but it really wouldn't be all that difficult to make this at home on a smaller scale. Maybe just get a system like that and get a communal reservoir or something along that line hmm just a thought and who know one of our fellow members could have a home made working column at home. The sky's the limit, latez.
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11-18-2007, 12:22 AM #7Senior Member
Vertical Growing ... new age of hydroponics
Originally Posted by klondike_bar
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09-02-2008, 08:34 AM #8Junior Member
Vertical Growing ... new age of hydroponics
is this only for vegging? do you need to change the bulbs for flowering.
has anyone tried this for medical cannabis, yet? im guessing that the plants will be very very short, since the distance between the light and the net pot holders are close, 2-3ft)
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09-04-2008, 09:38 AM #9Senior Member
Vertical Growing ... new age of hydroponics
i kind of doubt it would work on cannabis unless it was a really shitty SOG but even then im just unsure teh lil metal guirters provide the root space necessary (& equivalent to 1gallon PF) for decent cannabis plants, i could be wrong no doubt,.
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09-09-2008, 05:02 PM #10Senior Member
Vertical Growing ... new age of hydroponics
Hulkster, You can grow a lot less plants in huge recirculating DWC buckets w/ the same amount of vertical lighting and yield even more than that...with a lot less plants to have to explain to the popo, even if you have a medical card. if you don't believe it do a search on "shaggy to dope" he will make a believer out of you too...
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