Leftist Blogs Defend Police Brutality In Student Tazering

[pisshead]

Leftist Blogs Defend Police Brutality In Student Tazering
Partisan bickering obscures heart of the issue as Fox News, MSNBC set up phony debate by making Kerry's behavior focus of story, not oppressive actions of thug cops Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Tuesday, September 18, 2007

[align=left]Media coverage of a University of Florida student being tazered by cops for asking a question didn't spark a debate about ongoing police brutality and political persecution, but instead prompted partisan bickering and mindless ninnying about John Kerry's behavior during the incident, while leftist blogs defended the actions of the police.
Andrew Meyer was grabbed by cops yesterday after he asked the former presidential candidate why he didn't challenge the rigged election of 2004 and about his membership of the skull and bones secret society. Meyer asked police what he was being arrested for as they dragged him to the back of the University Auditorium before manhandling him to the ground.
As the photo above shows, two female officers, one with some kind of gangland tattoo on her arm, seem to be smiling with pleasure as they move in to seize Meyer.
Only when Meyer was immobile and had five officers on top of him did the police decide to send 50,000 volts of electricity coursing through his prostrate body, seemingly waiting until Meyer begged them not to do it so as to enjoy the maximum power trip from administrating the torture. [/align]

[align=left] Watch the video.
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[align=left]Fox News, MSNBC and others relentlessly replayed the video yesterday - not as a shocking indictment of the police's actions during the incident, but to discuss John Kerry's behavior and the fact that he continued taking questions while Meyer was being brutalized.
This prompted leftist blogs like News Hounds to slam Fox for endlessly showing the footage as Democrat websites closed ranks and either ignored what was a savage act of police brutality and political persecution or simply claimed Fox News were hyping the story.
They even defended the actions of the police in stating the cops were right to tazer Meyer as he lay on the floor. Imagine if this had happened during a town hall meeting with Bush - liberals would have screamed bloody murder and rightly so - but in this instance they applaud the police for their act of torture simply because Meyer dared question their idol John Kerry.
Another detail left out of press reports is Meyer's political affiliation - he is not a Neo-Con who was attempting to put John Kerry on the spot as Fox News has tried to portray - he was a 9/11 truther. Meyer links to the 9/11 Mysteries documentary from the home page of his website.

Beyond the mindless partisan ninnying, the heart of the issue is that this was another act of wanton police brutality and torture by means of tazering.
The police are now trained that "pain compliance," a euphemism for torture, is acceptable in apprehending anyone even if that person poses no physical danger.
In many cases, cops will tazer someone even if they offer no resistance whatsoever, simply for the sick enjoyment of the power trip as the victim begs and pleads not to be tortured. They also seem to get a kick out of tazering young children and even toddlers.

Take the case of UCLA student Mostafa Tabatabainejad (video above) , who was stunned over and over again for refusing to show his ID at a campus library.
Tabatabainejad agreed to leave and was on his way out of the building before cops tazered him and then proceeded to order him to get back on his feet just so they could shock him over and over again as he cried and moaned for them to stop. [/align]
The bottom line is that Taser use is being abused by police all over the country as cops are trained that torture is a perfectly acceptable response to somebody who asks the wrong question or refuses to show their papers.

pisshead Reviewed by pisshead on 09-18-2007. Leftist Blogs Defend Police Brutality In Student Tazering Leftist Blogs Defend Police Brutality In Student Tazering Partisan bickering obscures heart of the issue as Fox News, MSNBC set up phony debate by making Kerry's behavior focus of story, not oppressive actions of thug cops Paul Joseph Watson Prison Planet Tuesday, September 18, 2007 Rating: 5

[Psycho4Bud]

Prison Planet spin.........:lol5:

Have a good one!:s4:

[killerweed420]

There was no reason to tazer him.I imagine if the cameras weren't there they would have fun beating the crap out of him.

[Captain Jack Sparrow]

Watched 2 versions of the incident...first one gave me the impression that the kid was unruly and just wanted to cause a ruckus and deserved to be tasered.

Then I watched a second vid which showed the first part of him asking his question and then all of a sudden hes approached by officers and removed.

So I've come to the conclusion that the kid should never have been escorted off BUT once he was being escorted off he was out of control and needed a tazing because, quite frankly, he wouldn't calm the fuck down and was just making a god damn scene and an embarrassment of himself.

If he had just kept his cool and walked off, and maybe put up a LITTLE fight but not the tantrum he threw, he would have my support.

Again, I don't understand WHY he was being escorted off by police officers but he was way out of control once he was being removed.

[Psycho4Bud]

Again, I don't understand WHY he was being escorted off by police officers but he was way out of control once he was being removed.

The way it sounded they were suppose to limit their questions and he kept rambling on. They finally turned off the microphone and thats when the cops finally tried to get him escorted out peacefully. You saw the rest.........

Have a good one!:s4:

[king of the world]

i dont know, i dont like police brutality but that was not brutality. the kid aint straight in the head, he aint want to listen to the law so he ended up listening to the taser. he was obnoxcious he deserved it if you ask me. you know how many folks get they ass beat by the popo for little shit. this kid was practacly resling the cops they should have gave him the death sentence.:stoned:

[andruejaysin]

With a little luck those pigs will be around next time you blaze one up, no reason you should't get a few volts.

[pisshead]

i guess i'm just weird then, i find this to be something you'd see in some third world dictatorship where one guy can't stand up and ask a god a question...without resorting to such quick, unnecessary violence...

it didn't used to be like that, but now we have terrorism as a threat, so we need tyranny to protect our freedom.

the videos can be seen here.

The Tasering Will Continue Until You All Submit! [align=left] John P
One Man's Blog
Tuesday September 18, 2007[/align]
Tasers were developed as a non-lethal option to bring dangerous situations under control. But law enforcement officials are now using them with wild abandon in cases where simple diplomacy or a little hard work would otherwise suffice.
In the past Iâ??ve written about the police tasering of a UCLA student for refusing to show his school ID, as well as the time a cop tasered an 11 year old at school because the officer on hand apparently couldnâ??t physically restrain him?!? (Gee, what would they have done 10 years ago?)
Police have also used Tasers against peaceful protesters (NPR audio about tasering protesters), a pregnant woman (8 months) and an elderly man who called 911 to get medical attention for his diabetic seizure.
So whoâ??s next? Maybe you.
(Article continues below)



Now, police are being given the green light all over the world to completely disable people whenever they feel like it, and Iâ??m certain we are going to see a whole lot more abuse as a result.

• People will be tasered long before itâ??s a necessity. Think about it, if you were a cop why even bother to break a sweat when you know you could probably control a situation physically? All you have to do is taser the hell out of someone and theyâ??ll do anything you say.
• People will be intimidated and threatened by the use of tasers. Most people are not that scared of police officers because they feel reasonably sure they wonâ??t be shot (like with a gun). But now you canâ??t be sure that even arguing with a cop wonâ??t result in a tasering.
• Women will be tasered and raped while they are conscious but unable to react. If you were a rapist you could use one of these to rape anyone you wanted. This guy did, and it happened to this homeless woman and two women in D.C.
• Men will be tasered and then beaten without being able to defend themselves. Want proof? Here is a group of â??private security guardsâ?� hired by the Israeli government using stun guns against unarmed Rabbis.
• More people will die as a direct result of taser use. In the US nearly 200 people have already died after being shot by a taser gun, including a mentally ill homeless woman who was stunned with a Taser while on the ground in handcuffs.

In case you arenâ??t quite familiar with the technology, here is a news clip with a bit of an an overview. The most important quote in the clip:

Police say they will only be used when someone poses a real and immediate risk to themselves, the public or the police.

So, just how effective is a Taser? Well, here is what it does to you, as demonstrated by US Military personnel undergoing police training:

The effectiveness of this torturous device, combined with the immediacy with which itâ??s effects dissipate seem to be like an invitation for police abuse. Itâ??s incredibly easy to justify electrocution when there are no lingering marks. Hmmmâ?¦ I wonder, if we tasered people in military prison camps would it be considered torture?
For example, here is a cop Tasering a guy who is holding an infant without ever even attempting to place a hand on him. It was a first resort, not a last resort, and it caused the infant to be injured.

From The Briefing Room:

Also, take the case of New Orleans resident Ivy Gisclair. Held at OPP for unpaid parking tickets, Gisclair was about to be released on his own recognizance when Hurricane Katrina hit. After languishing with thousands of other prisoners in a flooded jail, Gisclair was sent to the Bossier Parish Maximum Security Prison. Once there, Gisclair apparently had the nerve to inquire about being held past his release date. Gisclair has testified that he was then restrained and stunned repeatedly with a Taser, before being thrown, naked and unconscious, into solitary confinement.
â??I canâ??t imagine any justification for that,â?� says Tom Jawetz from the ACLU. â??[Prison guards] were kicking, beating and â??Tasingâ?? him until he lost consciousness. A line was crossed that should never have been crossed.â?�

You can see the rest of Ivyâ??s story here.
And how about this? Here are several large officers Tasering a Woman who is laying on the ground. Why? You cannot convince me that she â??â?¦poses a real and immediate risk to herself, the public or the police.â?� The video makes it exceedingly clear that the weapon is being used as a torture device.

If you want to see the full video from which that clip was extracted you can view it here. Trust me, there was no provocation for the tasering and itâ??s obvious they just felt like doing it.
Now, if you want to see a situation where Taser use was clearly warranted, here you go. These officers are acting professionally, they are trying to diffuse the situation and use other means, and they are up against a huge, drunk 340 pound guy.

So, what are we to do about all of this? As a society we need to answer some philosophical questions about when itâ??s actually acceptable to deploy this, or any other non-lethal weapon. I say â??weâ?� because I am not referring to the police. The police derive power from the people. We define what is acceptable and they only enforce it.
Police departments operate on a set of standards called a Force Continuum which define the amount of force allowable in a given situation. A typical force continuum from a US government publication on use of force looks like this:

• Verbal command
• Handcuff suspect
• Search suspect
• Use wrist/arm lock
• Use takedown
• Block/punch/kick
• Strike suspect
• Wrestle suspect
• Pepper spray
• Use baton
• Use firearm

Here is a PDF document which outlines Categories of Police Continuum of Force for 6 different cities (see page 37), and all are basically similar to the sample above.
As weâ??ve seen demonstrated in the videos above, the Police have decided that the best place to insert the new Taser capability is often immediately after verbal command, and long before any physical control attempts.
Amnesty International however has called for a Taser moratorium by all law enforcement agencies based on the concern that â??stun technologyâ?� promoted as harmless may, in fact, be â??excessive and lethal forceâ?� because of 74 deaths that the organization says have occurred after Taser use.
But it seems to me that officers should be allowed to use them, but forced to treat Tasers at the same level on the Force Continuum as Pepper Spray, another non-lethal weapon whose effects wear off. They both inflict the same amount of pain, although Tasers are just on a more compressed time line. Huge pain followed by quick relief, compared to moderate pain with slower relief. If anything, the Taser is worse.
In the end though, I think weâ??ve all become too sheepish to actually open our mouths and complain about the unnecessary force. For example, if youâ??ve got a blog are you going to publish this article? I generally doubt it. And that is evidence of why the Tasering will continue!
Well, that and the fact that we get to watch the hilarious antics of guys like this:

[andruejaysin]

The cops a few town over tasered a guy to death by shooting him with 2 tasers at once a couple towns over from where I live. He was naked, obviously not armed.

[jakez]

With a little luck those pigs will be around next time you blaze one up, no reason you should't get a few volts.

I hope so in 'king of the world's sake, this dude thinks the guy should get the death sentence for that! I wish I knew a word beyond insane right now.. lunatic?! Are you fucking for real?

Seriously though, on a completely unbiased level here, you people think this was justified?!!!!!!!!! Are you out of your stoned minds?! I think John Kerry even said "no, let me answer the question"..