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    #41
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    Police Taser UF Student at Kerry Forum

    One of the best videos yet.

    YouTube - UF student Tasered at Kerry forum (new, complete)

    Notice his hand on the railing. He wasn't hand cuffed when they tasered him.

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    #42
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    Police Taser UF Student at Kerry Forum

    Quote Originally Posted by ntcrawler
    Oh c'mon. Its not like they pulled out the taser in the first place! They tried pulling him out and he yanked alway back towards the stage. They tried again and HE YANKED ALWAY AGAIN!!!!

    If was obvious he wasn't gonna go now so they take him on the ground to put hand cuffs on him and he doesn't stay on his stomach and put his hands around his back as he was told. Now they could of wrestled him more to get him to cooperate and possibly injure him while trying to get his hands behind his back. They could of also took a few swings with a baton to get him to be a little more submissive. Instead they used a taser and apparently it WORKED!! In the video of after they started walking him out he seemed fine and a lot more calm then he was before.

    There was rules to the forum, he broke them so he was to be escorted out and he just wasn't going to have that.
    You don't think the way they were manhandling him, even in the beginning, was excessive, since all he did was ramble on? Was he breaking the rules? yes. Was his breaking of the rules in any way shape or form threatening to the point of being manhandled out of a room? No. I agree that he was mistaken in rambling, but I understand the actions he took.

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    #43
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    Police Taser UF Student at Kerry Forum

    I'll agree that they could of been a little softer in the beginning but obviously they didn't have much of a grip on him if he was able to slip right out. Their behavior is what I would of expect from any security if I was to be escorted out.

    If you wanna blame any one blame the procedures that they are taught on how to handle a situation. They did their job.

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    #44
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    Police Taser UF Student at Kerry Forum

    Now, only take this with a grain of salt, but I heard that this whole incident was staged. To put fear into you, so you will be less likely to question authority.

    My opinion is that he didn't deserve to get tased, not at all. They already had him on the ground when they tased him. So tell me, why did they need to do it? They already had him subdued enough - they did not need to tase him. I can't believe anybody would side with the police on this one.

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    #45
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    Police Taser UF Student at Kerry Forum

    Quote Originally Posted by MrNiceGuy420
    what happened to freedom of speech
    Freedom of Speech doesn't give you the right to interrupt or dominate any social setting that you please...

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    #46
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    Police Taser UF Student at Kerry Forum

    Quote Originally Posted by meatw4d
    Freedom of Speech doesn't give you the right to interrupt or dominate any social setting that you please...
    And when somebody interrupts or "dominates any social setting," does that give a police officer the right to tase you? Clearly he was resisting arrest, but after they already subdued him, he was tased. Tell me why, with good reasoning. I don't think there is a good reason. Also, it seems like the cops allowed him to speak for awhile. Did you notice that? But once the "Skull & Bones" thing came up, they clearly started to intervene. If he was taken out because he interrupted the forum, then they would have told him right away. I think these police were mad at the dude, and tased him because of it. He did mouth off to them, and you know that cops don't take that shit. I personally think the cops did it to "teach him a lesson."

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    #47
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    Police Taser UF Student at Kerry Forum

    Quote Originally Posted by mfqr
    And when somebody interrupts or "dominates any social setting," does that give a police officer the right to tase you? Clearly he was resisting arrest, but after they already subdued him, he was tasted. Tell me why, with good reasoning. I don't think there is a good reason. Also, it seems like the cops allowed him to speak for awhile. Did you notice that? But once the "Skull & Bones" thing came up, they clearly started to intervene. If he was taken out because he interrupted the forum, then they would have told him right away.
    He wasn't interrupting, per say. He had a right to ask questions. But once he began his breathless rant, the event coordinator sent security after him to take him outside. At first they weren't excessive at all. Did you watch the video? From the start this kid was resisting the escort out of the building. That got him arrested, which he also resisted. Then he was warned that he was going to be tasered if he didn't let them cuff him. Did he stop squirming? Nope. He wasn't ever cooperative with the police. What are they supposed to do? Baby him out the door? This isn't kindergarten or time out. This is real life. You can't wrestle your way away from a cop, or you'll get tasered.

    edit: also, if you haven't seen a good video of his unreasonable rant, check this: YouTube - UF Student Tased by Univ of Florida Police

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    #48
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    Police Taser UF Student at Kerry Forum

    so no matter what the instance cops have the right to tase people,

    how about that instance in florida that just happened same night, where a woman was handcuffed, tased to ground, then kicked down, tased more to slam head into police cruiser, then tased 7 more times. i guess that was ok too

    im sorry but if a cop abuses his power on me(when im out of jail), ill go back and hunt them and their family down and ill kill them. i dont take lightly of power abuse, especially against me or family.

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    #49
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    Police Taser UF Student at Kerry Forum

    Quote Originally Posted by texas grass
    so no matter what the instance cops have the right to tase people,

    how about that instance in florida that just happened same night, where a woman was handcuffed, tased to ground, then kicked down, tased more to slam head into police cruiser, then tased 7 more times. i guess that was ok too

    im sorry but if a cop abuses his power on me(when im out of jail), ill go back and hunt them and their family down and ill kill them. i dont take lightly of power abuse, especially against me or family.
    Now your just comparing apples and oranges. Now I haven't heard about that story but if what you say is true then that is truly fucked up and hope she gets justice.

    So you will hunt down their family also? Then with that logic then we the people are responsible for all of our governments worldly affairs.

    You just mad because you know you have not much of an argument against the police in this case so you invite new cases into the discussion and to try to confuse us into thinking that the police at the forum did some thing wrong. Actually discuss the case properly and logically or not at all.

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    #50
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    Police Taser UF Student at Kerry Forum

    i don't need to cite any sources, i promise you, police abuse their power, and violate the rights of citizens, almost everyday. I have seen over 15 tasings, with my own eyes... seen a 13 year old tased unconsious until he messed himself and convulsed... simply for pushing the officer in the stomach...

    you can ride with the violation, and say the officer was protecting himself, and the kids shouldnt of done it... but i know for a fact, of the perversion of power in the ranks... that's why i know there was absolutely no real honest reason to taze the kid, ya, they might be able to reason it, but does that make it right?

    I know a female officer than can restrain a grown man by herself... ONE woman

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