Police Taser UF Student at Kerry Forum

[ntcrawler]

i don't need to cite any sources, i promise you, police abuse their power, and violate the rights of citizens, almost everyday. I have seen over 15 tasings, with my own eyes... seen a 13 year old tased unconsious until he messed himself and convulsed... simply for pushing the officer in the stomach...

you can ride with the violation, and say the officer was protecting himself, and the kids shouldnt of done it... but i know for a fact, of the perversion of power in the ranks... that's why i know there was absolutely no real honest reason to taze the kid, ya, they might be able to reason it, but does that make it right?

I know a female officer than can restrain a grown man by herself... ONE woman

But in this case the police were doing their job and did not carry it to far giving many chance to Meyer to just submit. Trying to lump all police officers as corrupt authority because of bad past experiences is no different from white people who hate black people(and lump them all together) because of bad past experiences.

I don't want to you these officers lose their jobs. If you have a problem high don't lay it out on the officers but instead the procedures they are taught.

[Hardcore Newbie]

I'll agree that they could of been a little softer in the beginning but obviously they didn't have much of a grip on him if he was able to slip right out. Their behavior is what I would of expect from any security if I was to be escorted out.

If you wanna blame any one blame the procedures that they are taught on how to handle a situation. They did their job.

I agree that's a part of the problem. But to give you an over-the-top comparison, imagine that I have a job talking to homeless people. I've been taught that if a homeless person moves forward, I punch them in the face to suppress them. Would you blame the way I was taught to deal with the prostitutes when they die? After all, I'd just be doing my job. Maybe you should just blame my superiors instead.

[BathingApes]

Resisting arrest is completely fine if youre not doing anything illegal or arrest-worthy.

Its worrying to see a pattern of people saying over media/forums "If a cop tells you to do something, you do it" This is complete and utter bullshit people, if you aren't breaking any laws or would be breaking laws by not obeying police, then you are in no way obliged to do so. Sure, he was maybe annoying, but he actually said "If you let me go i'll walk out"

This is fucking ridiculous and people on THIS forum of all should see why.

Our freedoms are becoming more and more negotiable.

[BathingApes]

Resisting arrest is completely fine if youre not doing anything illegal or arrest-worthy. Oh right I forgot, this "extra information" going around, apparently he cut line and shouted a bit, tase worthy. He asked some good questions too, sure, skull and bones was a bit too far but before that, albeit rude, his questions were actually pretty intellectual..

But it's worrying to see a pattern of people saying over media/forums "If a cop tells you to do something, you do it" This is complete and utter bullshit people, if you aren't breaking any laws or would be breaking laws by not obeying police, then you are in no way in need of a good ol' tasing. He was annoying, childish and rude but 5 police offers should be enough to remove him without fucking tasing.

Pfft, blame the proceedures? "They're doing their job" If someone chooses a job where they have to follow such proceedures, bear in mind they had a choice whether or not to do the job.. It's not like "police officer" is a last resort.. If they choose to do it they agree to those proceedures which is why THEY are at fault for even being cops. Cops aren't creatures of divinity. Theyre fucking normal people who agree to sign over themselves to ridiculous establishments that arrest innocent people and CAUSE PAIN to people who are being a mild irritation.

This is fucking ridiculous and people on THIS forum should see why.

Our freedoms are becoming more and more negotiable.

(EDIT: OOPS, seemed to have posted this twice after editing, wtf?!)

[ntcrawler]

I agree that's a part of the problem. But to give you an over-the-top comparison, imagine that I have a job talking to homeless people. I've been taught that if a homeless person moves forward, I punch them in the face to suppress them. Would you blame the way I was taught to deal with the prostitutes when they die? After all, I'd just be doing my job. Maybe you should just blame my superiors instead.

HAHAHAHAHA

First off, that had to be one of the funniest responses I've received. Now you are correct in calling that and over-the-top comparison but to answer your question I truly believe that it would be the supervisors/procedure that is too blame.

[mfqr]

He wasn't interrupting, per say. He had a right to ask questions. But once he began his breathless rant, the event coordinator sent security after him to take him outside. At first they weren't excessive at all. Did you watch the video? From the start this kid was resisting the escort out of the building. That got him arrested, which he also resisted. Then he was warned that he was going to be tasered if he didn't let them cuff him. Did he stop squirming? Nope. He wasn't ever cooperative with the police. What are they supposed to do? Baby him out the door? This isn't kindergarten or time out. This is real life. You can't wrestle your way away from a cop, or you'll get tasered.

edit: also, if you haven't seen a good video of his unreasonable rant, check this: YouTube - UF Student Tased by Univ of Florida Police

You're wrong.

[ntcrawler]

Resisting arrest is completely fine if youre not doing anything illegal or arrest-worthy. Oh right I forgot, this "extra information" going around, apparently he cut line and shouted a bit, tase worthy. He asked some good questions too, sure, skull and bones was a bit too far but before that, albeit rude, his questions were actually pretty intellectual..

But it's worrying to see a pattern of people saying over media/forums "If a cop tells you to do something, you do it" This is complete and utter bullshit people, if you aren't breaking any laws or would be breaking laws by not obeying police, then you are in no way in need of a good ol' tasing. He was annoying, childish and rude but 5 police offers should be enough to remove him without fucking tasing.

Pfft, blame the proceedures? "They're doing their job" If someone chooses a job where they have to follow such proceedures, bear in mind they had a choice whether or not to do the job.. It's not like "police officer" is a last resort.. If they choose to do it they agree to those proceedures which is why THEY are at fault for even being cops. Cops aren't creatures of divinity. Theyre fucking normal people who agree to sign over themselves to ridiculous establishments that arrest innocent people and CAUSE PAIN to people who are being a mild irritation.

This is fucking ridiculous and people on THIS forum should see why.

Our freedoms are becoming more and more negotiable.

(EDIT: OOPS, seemed to have posted this twice after editing, wtf?!)

He was being escorted out under the wishes of the forum organizers. What more do you want me to say? So after he resisted being escorted out TWICE and everyone ended up on the ground now was the time for them to let go of him so he could walk out? Its kinda obvious he wasn't interested in leaving in the past two attempts of taking him outside!

Now I'm gonna give you a different scenario; They let him get up to walk out and he decides to run around the audience, pulls out a gun and starts shooting people. Now I'm not saying that scenario is likely but as a cop you have to plan for the unpredictable. If that did happen(or any event like it) their would be a media frenzy talking about how the cops were not doing their jobs and the needs for stricter security/procedure(less freedom). You would probably be arguing in this thread still against the cops!

[ntcrawler]

You're wrong.

Which part because his description seemed pretty spot on compared to news websites saying they tased a student for asking a question.

[mfqr]

Which part because his description seemed pretty spot on compared to news websites saying they tased a student for asking a question.

You are wrong too.

[ntcrawler]

You are wrong too.

Mind telling me which?