Jurisdiction

[Markass]

Okay, we're talking a city cop, pulled my friend over out of city limit, therefore he didn't have jurisdiction..He then initiated a search, that my friend consented to..yeah, stupid..I know. Several minutes later they find some rolling papers and a pipe, and about a bowl's worth of marijuana. The officer then points a few hundred feet ahead to the road and says "You see that curb up there? Well that's where my jurisdiction ends, so I'm going to have to call another officer to come sign this ticket." Fifteen minutes later a county deputy comes out and signs it. Did they have the right to pull him over and do a search out of jurisdiction??

The reason I ask is that this happened nearly a month ago, and the court hasn't filed anything yet, and when he went to court they just postponed it to a later date..The cop that pulled him over out of jurisdiction, and the deputy that wrote the tickets have been cruising around following my friend and sitting and waiting for us to leave places. We've had on three different nights since then to call someone to pick us up because that guy was going to pull us over when we left the store...I think they're trying to bust him again, only this time with the deputy with him they can pull us over even out of city limits, if that happens again. Were they wrong to pull him over in the first place? Because I really think that's what it is, and if it's so, then I'm going to tell him to go to the courthouse and let them have it. The fact that we're being nearly harassed by the bastards is quite annoying, and it's probably because they're going to have to legally pull him over to find his stash...I've been busted for it before, and they know I smoke...and since the both of us are hanging out, we're obviously still smoking..thanks for any help guys

Markass Reviewed by Markass on 09-18-2007. Jurisdiction Okay, we're talking a city cop, pulled my friend over out of city limit, therefore he didn't have jurisdiction..He then initiated a search, that my friend consented to..yeah, stupid..I know. Several minutes later they find some rolling papers and a pipe, and about a bowl's worth of marijuana. The officer then points a few hundred feet ahead to the road and says "You see that curb up there? Well that's where my jurisdiction ends, so I'm going to have to call another officer to come sign this Rating: 5

[killerweed420]

I think this is typical in any community across the US.Once you become a known quantity they'll target you for what ever little thing they can.I have found one of the best things you can do about it is make a game out of it.When they're watching you walk up to them and talk with them and joke with them.If they begin to thing you're just fun loving people who like to smoke a little weed once in a while they might just leave you a lone and if they really come to like you they might just cut you some slack. Do not play tough guy with them.You will lose.

[Aristotle]

What the guy said above is probably the best way, but you could always do a THOROUGH search of your car and then have them pull you over. Be very polite and nice but refuse a search, make them bring in the dogs. Maybe even act nervous just to make him even more giddy about busting you guys. He'll think for sure he has you guys and feel like an idiot when absolutely nothing, not even a spare paper on the floor, turns up. That will teach him when it takes up over an hour of his time and he looks like a tool to the rest of his department.

By the sounds of it, do you live in a small town?

[Markass]

yes, I live in a small town...

Any way anyone could tell me about the jurisdiction? they don't have a drug dog, and they're never going to get me to consent to a search, and nor my friend after this last incident...

I just need to know if a city cop had the right to pull him over out of city limits, search, and have the deputy who did have county jurisdiction come write the tickets..

[birdgirl73]

You're in Oklahoma, right, Mark? How local jurisdictional boundaries work varies from state to state and municipality to municipality, from what I recall. Here in urban and suburban Dallas, local cops can pull people over on suspicion of a crime and follow them outside the jurisdiction for the stop if the offense occurred and pursuit initiated within the jurisdictional boundaries. They usually need an on-duty/in-jurisdiction officer to write any citation or do any arrests, just as an off-duty officer can make a stop but needs one who's on the clock to deal with the real administrative details.

I'm thinking you're in the Tulsa area. Call the University of Tulsa College of Law and ask them how that works up there. Or, if you can stand to, call the Sooner School of Law. They'll probably all be out scratching their heads, though.

[Markass]

You're in Oklahoma, right, Mark? How local jurisdictional boundaries work varies from state to state and municipality to municipality, from what I recall. Here in urban and suburban Dallas, local cops can pull people over on suspicion of a crime and follow them outside the jurisdiction for the stop if the offense occurred and pursuit initiated within the jurisdictional boundaries. They usually need an on-duty/in-jurisdiction officer to write any citation or do any arrests, just as an off-duty officer can make a stop but needs one who's on the clock to deal with the real administrative details.

I'm thinking you're in the Tulsa area. Call the University of Tulsa College of Law and ask them how that works up there. Or, if you can stand to, call the Sooner School of Law. They'll probably all be out scratching their heads, though.

Okay, I'll try to send them an email or something if I can, thanks birdgirl :stoned:

[Myth1184]

Police can pull you over whereever, even outside of Jurisdiction, they cant however arrest you outside, only detain you till the proper officer arrives.

City Police are bound by their City Limits

Sheriffs/State troopers can arrest you anywhere inside Said State.