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    #71
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    Selective Service...yeah, about that..

    Quote Originally Posted by Markass
    We may be able to eliminate a terrorist group...we can kill them, but we cannot kill their beliefs; their beliefs have been there for thousands of years, and will be for all eternity I'm sure.

    P4B, does it not make you weary to know that the individuals we're fighting in that country can freely come into ours?? Have you ever heard of a sleeper cell?
    Sure have heard of sleeper cells.....just another reason why we need things like the Patriot Act. Being able to tap into these peoples communication is vital! Thinking that if we pull out and leave the middle east is going to mean that they ask the sleeper cells to come home though is just a dream....wouldn't happen. If anything, by leaving them alone over there will just give them more of a base in order to create schemes for the cells.

    Quote Originally Posted by Markass
    During my trip to michigan, I saw TONS of airport workers who were 'foreign.' Not to be racist, but when the gentleman driving my baggage to an airplane has a turban on...that's not exactly a comfortable feeling to me.
    I hear ya but that is something that we all have to get over. I was up at the Mall of America and saw quite a few of the Muslim faith in there. My first thoughts were the same as yours and I was a bit pissed off at myself because of it. NOT ALL Muslims are terrorists and to look at a person and think such a thing is just racist.

    Like what the ol' man used to say...."You have assholes in all groups".

    Have a good one!:s4:

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    #72
    Senior Member

    Selective Service...yeah, about that..

    just to get the facts straight for the people who keep using faulty information.

    1. Iraq had nothing i repeat NOTHING to do with the 9/11 attacks.
    there was no link between saddam and bin laden, in fact they are sworn enemies. nearly every hijacker was from our friends the saudis.

    2.the fact that we're fighting them in iraq does not make us safer in america. actually it just makes the muslim countries inflamed with hatred for the US and gives al qaeda new recruits.

    3.terrorism is not a country, it is an abstract idea. you cant fight an idea because you cant kill an idea. the more of them you kill, the more strength you give to their ideology. you have to destroy the source of their radical ideas.

    4.bin laden and his cronies are free to plan their attacks while we are busy fucking around in iraq for no reason at all because we decided to quit the mission in afganistan (which was a legitimate war) and secure some iraqi oil.

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    #73
    Senior Member

    Selective Service...yeah, about that..

    Quote Originally Posted by darkside
    just to get the facts straight for the people who keep using faulty information.

    1. Iraq had nothing i repeat NOTHING to do with the 9/11 attacks.
    there was no link between saddam and bin laden, in fact they are sworn enemies. nearly every hijacker was from our friends the saudis.

    2.the fact that we're fighting them in iraq does not make us safer in america. actually it just makes the muslim countries inflamed with hatred for the US and gives al qaeda new recruits.

    3.terrorism is not a country, it is an abstract idea. you cant fight an idea because you cant kill an idea. the more of them you kill, the more strength you give to their ideology. you have to destroy the source of their radical ideas.

    4.bin laden and his cronies are free to plan their attacks while we are busy fucking around in iraq for no reason at all because we decided to quit the mission in afganistan (which was a legitimate war) and secure some iraqi oil.
    Afghanistan Poppy Cultivation Skyrockets - washingtonpost.com the US is still in Afghanistan, The Al-CIA-Duh need there Drugs. The Rich get more Drugs to Smuggle, And get a Ton of Money off just Selling Weaponds and bullets to the US. Not To mention the Oil.

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    #74
    Senior Member

    Selective Service...yeah, about that..

    not all us liberals are scared and want to turn tail and run. what we want is an end to the war. and what is wrong with that? what is wrong with wanting our soldiers to come home? nothing is wrong with that. what is wrong is anytime some one asks about an exit stratagy or bringing an end to this war we are labelled "unpatriotic". just because we want an end to the war does not mean we want to sucumb to defeat. on the contrary we want to win this. noboy wants terrorist to win. and its not that we dont want to finish what we started, again we do want to finish it and not drag it out. it seems the conservatives dont even want to discuss ending it. what is unpatriotic is keeping our soldiers in a war zone with no end in sight.

    like i said we just want to hear that we have a plan to get outa there. if it be ok we lost lets come home, fine. if it is (and what i think needs to happen)we are goin throw everything including the kitchen sink at them and kick their punk ass then ,fine lets do it. but lets just do something and get our kids home

    TERRORIST: a person or GROUP that uses violence or PROPAGANDA to force their ideas on another person or GROUP.

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    #75
    Senior Member

    Selective Service...yeah, about that..

    The terror attacks and the war are all planned by the elites who have to keep us occupied while they steal our treasury blind. our great grandkids will be paying for these things that the Federal bankers and the elites have dreamed up. I'm not 100% convinced that 911 was an inside job, but I'm not convinced it wasn't either. It makes sense in a cynical sort of way, as the beneficiaries are definently the elites and the corporations. As long as you can get other people to die for you by hyping some patriotic bullshit, you can steal the prize. It's like a giant chess game, you always sacrifice the pawns to save the king.

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    #76
    Member

    Selective Service...yeah, about that..

    Ya'll that hold dual citizenships obviosly like the U.S better than the other so i say shut up..and/or go where it is you came from...if your gonna run when/if the draft starts..i say get a head start and go now.....given the choice most soldiers don't want war but that is thier job and they do it well when it comes to that....

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